From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 21:04:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120309210403.GA2319@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120309205652.GA6807@otherpad.lan.raisama.net>
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 05:56:52PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> Resurrecting an old thread:
>
> I didn't see any clear conclusion in this thread (this is why I am
> resurrecting it), except that many were arguing that libvirt should
> simply copy and/or generate the CPU model definitions from Qemu. I
> really don't think it's reasonable to expect that.
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 03:54:15PM +0100, Jiri Denemark wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Recently I realized that all modern CPU models defined in
> > /etc/qemu/target-x86_64.conf are useless when qemu is used through libvirt.
> > That's because we start qemu with -nodefconfig which results in qemu ignoring
> > that file with CPU model definitions. We have a very good reason for using
> > -nodefconfig because we need to control the ABI presented to a guest OS and we
> > don't want any configuration file that can contain lots of things including
> > device definitions to be read by qemu. However, we would really like the new
> > CPU models to be understood by qemu even if used through libvirt. What would
> > be the best way to solve this?
> >
> > I suspect this could have been already discussed in the past but obviously a
> > workable solution was either not found or just not implemented.
>
> So, our problem today is basically:
>
> A) libvirt uses -nodefconfig;
> B) -nodefconfig makes Qemu not load the config file containing the CPU
> model definitions; and
> C) libvirt expects the full CPU model list from Qemu to be available.
I could have sworn we had this discussion a year ago or so, and had decided
that the default CPU models would be in something like /usr/share/qemu/cpu-x86_64.conf
and loaded regardless of the -nodefconfig setting. /etc/qemu/target-x86_64.conf
would be solely for end user configuration changes, not for QEMU builtin
defaults.
But looking at the code in QEMU, it doesn't seem we ever implemented this ?
Daniel
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Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 14:54 [Qemu-devel] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt Jiri Denemark
2011-12-15 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 15:30 ` Jiri Denemark
2011-12-18 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2011-12-15 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-12-18 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-09 20:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-09 21:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2012-03-09 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 4:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-11 11:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-10 12:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-10 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-10 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 18:37 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-10 22:39 ` Doug Goldstein
2012-03-11 0:55 ` Andrew Cathrow
2012-03-11 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 14:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 15:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 15:49 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 16:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 17:41 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 17:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 17:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 18:53 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:12 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 20:00 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 20:19 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-13 8:32 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-14 0:11 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-12 12:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 14:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-11 12:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-13 14:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 9:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 13:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 14:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-25 10:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 20:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 9:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 12:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-26 9:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 9:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 16:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 11:24 ` Jiri Denemark
2012-03-26 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 12:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-20 18:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
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