From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
"arch@ovirt.org" <arch@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:53:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120312135338.GE2304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120312135018.GI20867@redhat.com>
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 01:50:18PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 01:04:19PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:52:27AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:12:58AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > > > > On 03/11/2012 08:27 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > >On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:24:47PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > > > > >>Let's step back here.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Why are you writing these patches? It's probably not because you
> > > > > >>have a desire to say -cpu Westmere when you run QEMU on your laptop.
> > > > > >>I'd wager to say that no human has ever done that or that if they
> > > > > >>had, they did so by accident because they read documentation and
> > > > > >>thought they had to.
> > > >
> > > > No, it's because libvirt doesn't handle all the tiny small details
> > > > involved in specifying a CPU. All libvirty knows about are a set of CPU
> > > > flag bits, but it knows nothing about 'level', 'family', and 'xlevel',
> > > > but we would like to allow it to expose a Westmere-like CPU to the
> > > > guest.
> > >
> > > This is easily fixable in libvirt - so for the point of going discussion,
> > > IMHO, we can assume libvirt will support level, family, xlevel, etc.
> > >
> > And fill in all cpuid leafs by querying /dev/kvm when needed or, if TCG
> > is used, replicating QEMU logic? And since QEMU should be usable without
> > libvirt the same logic should be implemented in QEMU anyway.
>
> I'm not refering to that. I'm saying that any data QEMU has in its
> config file (/etc/qemu/target-x86_64.conf) should be represented
> in the libvirt CPU XML. family, model, stepping, xlevel and
> model_id are currently in QEMU CPU configs, but not in libvirt XML,
> which is something we will fix. The other issues you mention are
> completely independant of that.
>
Eduardo is going to extend what can be configured in /etc/qemu/target-x86_64.conf
and make CPU models name per machine type. What QEMU has now is not
good enough. I doubt libvirt goal is to be as bad as QEMU :)
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-12 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 14:54 [Qemu-devel] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt Jiri Denemark
2011-12-15 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 15:30 ` Jiri Denemark
2011-12-18 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2011-12-15 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-12-18 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-09 20:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-09 21:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 4:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-11 11:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-10 12:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-10 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-10 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 18:37 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-10 22:39 ` Doug Goldstein
2012-03-11 0:55 ` Andrew Cathrow
2012-03-11 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 14:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 15:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 15:49 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 16:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 17:41 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 17:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 17:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 18:53 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:12 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 20:00 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 20:19 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-13 8:32 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-14 0:11 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-12 12:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:53 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-03-12 13:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 14:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-11 12:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-13 14:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 9:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 13:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 14:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-25 10:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 20:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 9:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 12:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-26 9:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 9:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 16:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 11:24 ` Jiri Denemark
2012-03-26 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 12:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-20 18:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
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