From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:21:14 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120314095114.GA4136@amit.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6056FE.3020202@cn.fujitsu.com>
On (Wed) 14 Mar 2012 [16:29:50], Wen Congyang wrote:
> At 03/13/2012 06:47 PM, Avi Kivity Wrote:
> > On 03/13/2012 11:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:33:33PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>> On 03/12/2012 11:04 AM, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>> Do you have any other comments about this patch?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Not really, but I'm not 100% convinced the patch is worthwhile. It's
> >>> likely to only be used by Linux, which has kexec facilities, and you can
> >>> put talk to management via virtio-serial and describe the crash in more
> >>> details than a simple hypercall.
> >>
> >> As mentioned before, I don't think virtio-serial is a good fit for this.
> >> We want something that is simple & guaranteed always available. Using
> >> virtio-serial requires significant setup work on both the host and guest.
> >
> > So what? It needs to be done anyway for the guest agent.
> >
> >> Many management application won't know to make a vioserial device available
> >> to all guests they create.
> >
> > Then they won't know to deal with the panic event either.
> >
> >> Most administrators won't even configure kexec,
> >> let alone virtio serial on top of it.
> >
> > It should be done by the OS vendor, not the individual admin.
> >
> >> The hypercall requires zero host
> >> side config, and zero guest side config, which IMHO is what we need for
> >> this feature.
> >
> > If it was this one feature, yes. But we keep getting more and more
> > features like that and we bloat the hypervisor. There's a reason we
> > have a host-to-guest channel, we should use it.
> >
>
> I donot know how to use virtio-serial.
>
> I start vm like this:
> qemu ...\
> -device virtio-serial \
> -chardev socket,path=/tmp/foo,server,nowait,id=foo \
> -device virtserialport,chardev=foo,name=port1 ...
This is sufficient. On the host, you can open /tmp/foo using a custom
program or nc (nc -U /tmp/foo). On the guest, you can just open
/dev/virtio-ports/port1 and read/write into it.
See the following links for more details.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtioSerial#How_To_Test
http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio-serial_API
> You said that there are too many channels. Does it mean /tmp/foo is a channel?
You can have several such -device virtserialport. The -device part
describes what the guest will see. The -chardev part ties that to the
host-side part of the channel.
/tmp/foo is the host end-point for the channel, in the example above,
and /dev/virtio-ports/port1 is the guest-side end-point.
Amit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-14 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-08 7:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] kvm: set exit_reason to KVM_EXIT_GUEST_PANICKED " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v3] update linux-headers Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] deal with guest panicked event Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-08 10:11 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-08 11:52 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 22:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-21 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 1:46 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Avi Kivity
2012-03-09 1:21 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 9:04 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 10:33 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 6:44 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-13 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 9:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-13 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 8:29 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 9:53 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:26 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:29 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 11:11 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 18:46 ` Eric Northup
2012-03-15 7:01 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-15 10:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-15 11:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-15 11:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-16 8:05 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 8:34 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 18:47 ` Eric Northup
2012-03-14 10:37 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:52 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:13 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:58 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:06 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 11:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 10:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 9:51 ` Amit Shah [this message]
2012-03-14 10:04 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:40 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:01 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 7:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 10:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-19 7:33 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 9:59 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 15:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 0:56 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 9:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 9:35 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 9:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:18 ` Corey Minyard
2012-03-21 16:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 17:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-21 17:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 18:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-21 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 1:05 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22 7:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 7:44 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22 8:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 7:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 7:40 ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:05 ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:54 ` Amit Shah
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