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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:21:14 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120314095114.GA4136@amit.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6056FE.3020202@cn.fujitsu.com>

On (Wed) 14 Mar 2012 [16:29:50], Wen Congyang wrote:
> At 03/13/2012 06:47 PM, Avi Kivity Wrote:
> > On 03/13/2012 11:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:33:33PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>> On 03/12/2012 11:04 AM, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>> Do you have any other comments about this patch?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Not really, but I'm not 100% convinced the patch is worthwhile.  It's
> >>> likely to only be used by Linux, which has kexec facilities, and you can
> >>> put talk to management via virtio-serial and describe the crash in more
> >>> details than a simple hypercall.
> >>
> >> As mentioned before, I don't think virtio-serial is a good fit for this.
> >> We want something that is simple & guaranteed always available. Using
> >> virtio-serial requires significant setup work on both the host and guest.
> > 
> > So what?  It needs to be done anyway for the guest agent.
> > 
> >> Many management application won't know to make a vioserial device available
> >> to all guests they create. 
> > 
> > Then they won't know to deal with the panic event either.
> > 
> >> Most administrators won't even configure kexec,
> >> let alone virtio serial on top of it. 
> > 
> > It should be done by the OS vendor, not the individual admin.
> > 
> >> The hypercall requires zero host
> >> side config, and zero guest side config, which IMHO is what we need for
> >> this feature.
> > 
> > If it was this one feature, yes.  But we keep getting more and more
> > features like that and we bloat the hypervisor.  There's a reason we
> > have a host-to-guest channel, we should use it.
> > 
> 
> I donot know how to use virtio-serial.
> 
> I start vm like this:
> qemu ...\
>    -device virtio-serial \
>   -chardev socket,path=/tmp/foo,server,nowait,id=foo \
>   -device virtserialport,chardev=foo,name=port1 ...

This is sufficient.  On the host, you can open /tmp/foo using a custom
program or nc (nc -U /tmp/foo).  On the guest, you can just open
/dev/virtio-ports/port1 and read/write into it.

See the following links for more details.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtioSerial#How_To_Test
http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio-serial_API

> You said that there are too many channels. Does it mean /tmp/foo is a channel?

You can have several such -device virtserialport.  The -device part
describes what the guest will see.  The -chardev part ties that to the
host-side part of the channel.

/tmp/foo is the host end-point for the channel, in the example above,
and /dev/virtio-ports/port1 is the guest-side end-point.

		Amit

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-14  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-08  7:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] kvm: set exit_reason to KVM_EXIT_GUEST_PANICKED " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v3] update linux-headers Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] deal with guest panicked event Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:08   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-08 10:11     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:28     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:36       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-08 11:52         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:56           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 22:22             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-21 19:01               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12  1:46             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Avi Kivity
2012-03-09  1:21   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12  9:04     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 10:33       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13  6:44         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-13  8:54           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13  9:18         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-13 10:47           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14  8:29             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14  9:24               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14  9:53                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:07                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:26                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:29                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:46                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:48                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 11:11                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 13:07                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:13                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:14                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 13:16                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:25                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 18:46                                       ` Eric Northup
2012-03-15  7:01                                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-15 10:39                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-15 11:25                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-15 11:46                                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-16  8:05                                               ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:12                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  8:34                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 18:47                                       ` Eric Northup
2012-03-14 10:37                   ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:52                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:58                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:13                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:58                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:59                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:06                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 11:11                               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:17                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 10:59                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                       ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14  9:51               ` Amit Shah [this message]
2012-03-14 10:04                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:40                   ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:42                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:01                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:04             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  7:33               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 10:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-19  7:33 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20  9:59   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 15:45     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21  0:56       ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21  9:11         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21  9:35           ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21  9:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:18           ` Corey Minyard
2012-03-21 16:24             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:25             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 17:04               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-21 17:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 18:17                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-21 19:19               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  1:05                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22  7:31                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:44                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22  8:36                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:28                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:40                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:05   ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:54     ` Amit Shah

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