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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:46:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120314104608.GU2304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F607325.6050607@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:29:57PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 12:26 PM, Wen Congyang wrote:
> > >> If so, is this channel visible to guest userspace? If the channle is visible to guest
> > >> userspace, the program running in userspace may write the same message to the channel.
> > >>
> > > 
> > > Surely there's some kind of access control on channels.
> >
> > The virtio-serial depends on more things than touching the hypervisor. So I think touching
> > the hypervisor is more reliable than using virtio-serial device, and it is very simple and
> > easy to use.
> >
> > If we pass something from guest userspace to host, we can use virtio-serial. But If we pass
> > something from guest kernelspace to host, I still prefer to touch the hypervisor.
> 
> There's no argument that it's easier.  My concern is different, we're
> adding more and more stuff to the hypervisor because it's easier, which
> bloats it.  Every time we do it we add to compatibility and security
> problems.
> 
> The panic notification is *really* simple, so I don't expect it to cause
> a lot of problems.  But still, if it's possible not to change the
> hypervisor, we must make an effort in that direction.
> 
One more point against using virtio-serial is that it will be likely
compiled as a module which means panic during early boot will not be
reported.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-14 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-08  7:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] kvm: set exit_reason to KVM_EXIT_GUEST_PANICKED " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v3] update linux-headers Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] deal with guest panicked event Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:08   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-08 10:11     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:28     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:36       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-08 11:52         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:56           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 22:22             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-21 19:01               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12  1:46             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Avi Kivity
2012-03-09  1:21   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12  9:04     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 10:33       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13  6:44         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-13  8:54           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13  9:18         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-13 10:47           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14  8:29             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14  9:24               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14  9:53                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:07                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:26                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:29                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:46                         ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-03-14 10:48                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 11:11                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 13:07                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:13                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:14                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 13:16                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:25                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 18:46                                       ` Eric Northup
2012-03-15  7:01                                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-15 10:39                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-15 11:25                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-15 11:46                                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-16  8:05                                               ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:12                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  8:34                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 18:47                                       ` Eric Northup
2012-03-14 10:37                   ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:52                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:58                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:13                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:58                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:59                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:06                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 11:11                               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:17                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 10:59                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                       ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14  9:51               ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:04                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:40                   ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:42                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:01                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:04             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  7:33               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 10:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-19  7:33 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20  9:59   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 15:45     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21  0:56       ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21  9:11         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21  9:35           ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21  9:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:18           ` Corey Minyard
2012-03-21 16:24             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:25             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 17:04               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-21 17:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 18:17                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-21 19:19               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  1:05                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22  7:31                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:44                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22  8:36                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:28                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:40                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:05   ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:54     ` Amit Shah

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