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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Remove PCI class code from virtio balloon device
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:11:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321181127.GA25168@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6A014A.90704@codemonkey.ws>

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:26:50AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 03/21/2012 11:11 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:14:35AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>On 03/21/2012 10:10 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:42:41AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>>>On 03/21/2012 08:08 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:26:15AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>>>>On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:19:47PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> >>>>>>Looking at hw/pc_piix.c there are QEMUMachine types for each QEMU
> >>>>>>release.  Legacy machine types (e.g. pc_machine_v0_14) have a
> >>>>>>.compat_props array that can override qdev properties.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Perhaps Michael Tsirkin or someone else can comment on how to wire up
> >>>>>>hw/virtio-pci.c so that the class code can be overridden.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Stefan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>afaik we already let users over-write it for some other pci devices,
> >>>>>look there for examples.
> >>>>
> >>>> From hw/pc_piix.c:
> >>>>
> >>>>     .name = "pc-0.10",
> >>>>     .desc = "Standard PC, qemu 0.10",
> >>>>     .init = pc_init_pci_no_kvmclock,
> >>>>     .max_cpus = 255,
> >>>>     .compat_props = (GlobalProperty[]) {
> >>>>         {
> >>>>             .driver   = "virtio-blk-pci",
> >>>>             .property = "class",
> >>>>             .value    = stringify(PCI_CLASS_STORAGE_OTHER),
> >>>>         },{
> >>>>
> >>>>And from the earlier part of the thread, yes, it's imperative that
> >>>>we do not change anything in the PCI configuration space for older
> >>>>pc versions regardless of whether it may or may not work.
> >>>>
> >>>>Certain guests (like Windows) use a complex fingerprinting algorithm
> >>>>to determine when hardware changes.  It can be hard to detect in
> >>>>simple testing because it's based on a threshold.
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>Anthony Liguori
> >>>
> >>>Which reminds me - qemu sticks the release version in
> >>>guest visible places like CPU version.
> >>>This is wrong and causes windows guests to print messages
> >>>about driver updates when you switch.
> >>>We should find all these places and stop doing this.
> >>
> >>We could probably get away with doing a query/replace of
> >>QEMU_VERSION with qemu_get_version(), make version a static variable
> >>that defaults to QEMU_VERSION, and then provide a way for machines
> >>to override it.
> >>
> >>Then pc-0.10 could report a version of 0.10.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Anthony Liguori
> >
> >Frankly I don't see value in making it visible to the user,
> >at all. We are just triggering windows reactivations
> >without any user benefit. Why not return a fixed value there
> >to avoid that?
> 
> I don't see a problem making it fixed for 1.1, but for 1.0 and
> older, we should expose what we were supposed to expose.
> We need to fix the bug first, then we can change the behavior.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>

Makes sense to me.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-19  4:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Remove PCI class code from virtio balloon device David Gibson
2012-03-19 11:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20  0:42   ` David Gibson
2012-03-20  9:54     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20 10:19       ` David Gibson
2012-03-21 11:26         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-21 11:28           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-21 13:24             ` David Gibson
2012-03-21 13:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 14:42             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 15:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 15:14                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 16:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 16:26                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 16:33                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 18:28                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 18:11                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-03-20 10:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-03-26  1:19 David Gibson
2012-04-02  2:43 ` David Gibson
2012-04-02  6:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-04-02  6:49     ` David Gibson
2012-04-02  7:11       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-04-03 14:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-22  9:09 David Gibson
2012-03-22 10:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-22 10:27   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-22 10:32     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-22 10:52   ` David Gibson
2012-03-22 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-23  1:52   ` David Gibson
2012-03-23 12:54     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-16  1:03 David Gibson
2012-03-18 12:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-19  2:17   ` David Gibson

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