From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
minyard@acm.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Corey Minyard <tcminyard@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:31:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120322073111.GY22368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6A7AC8.5080604@cn.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 09:05:12AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> At 03/22/2012 03:19 AM, Anthony Liguori Wrote:
> > On 03/21/2012 11:25 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 03/21/2012 06:18 PM, Corey Minyard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Look at drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_msghandler.c. It has code to send panic
> >>>> event over IMPI. The code is pretty complex. Of course if we a going to
> >>>> implement something more complex than simple hypercall for panic
> >>>> notification we better do something more interesting with it than just
> >>>> saying "panic happened", like sending stack traces on all cpus for
> >>>> instance.
> >>>
> >>> I doubt that's the best example, unfortunately. The IPMI event log
> >>> has limited space and it has to be send a little piece at a time since
> >>> each log entry is 14 bytes. It just prints the panic string, nothing
> >>> else. Not that it isn't useful, it has saved my butt before.
> >>>
> >>> You have lots of interesting options with paravirtualization. You
> >>> could, for instance, create a console driver that delivered all
> >>> console output efficiently through a hypercall. That would be really
> >>> easy. Or, as you mention, a custom way to deliver panic information.
> >>> Collecting information like stack traces would be harder to
> >>> accomplish, as I don't think there is currently a way to get it except
> >>> by sending it to printk.
> >>
> >> That already exists; virtio-console (or serial console emulation) can do
> >> the job.
> >
> > I think the use case here is pretty straight forward: if the guest finds
> > itself in bad place, it wants to indicate that to the host.
> >
> > We shouldn't rely on any device drivers or complex code. It should be
> > as close to a single instruction as possible that can run even if
> > interrupts are disabled.
> >
> > An out instruction fits this very well. I think a simple protocol like:
>
> This solution is more simple than using virtio-serial.
>
> >
> > inl PORT -> returns a magic number indicating the presence of qemucalls
>
> I donot understantd this instruction's purpose.
>
> > inl PORT+1 -> returns a bitmap of supported features
>
> Hmm, we can execute this instruction when guest starts. If the userspace
> does not process panicked event, there is no need to notify it.
>
> >
> > outl PORT+1 -> data reg1
> > outl PORT+2 -> data reg2
> > outl PORT+N -> data regN
>
> We can get the register value from vmcs. So there is no need to tell
> the register value to the host.
>
No device should examine register value. Ideally QEMU would read
registers only during migration.
> If we decide to avoid touching hypervisor, I agree with this solution.
>
> Thanks
> Wen Congyang
> >
> > outl PORT -> qemucall of index value with arguments 1..N
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Anthony Liguori
> >
> >>
> >> In fact the feature can be implemented 100% host side by searching for a
> >> panic string signature in the console logs.
> >>
> >
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Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-22 7:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-08 7:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] kvm: set exit_reason to KVM_EXIT_GUEST_PANICKED " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v3] update linux-headers Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] deal with guest panicked event Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-08 10:11 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-08 11:52 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 22:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-21 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 1:46 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Avi Kivity
2012-03-09 1:21 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 9:04 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 10:33 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 6:44 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-13 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 9:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-13 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 8:29 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 9:53 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:26 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:29 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 11:11 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 18:46 ` Eric Northup
2012-03-15 7:01 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-15 10:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-15 11:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-15 11:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-16 8:05 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 8:34 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 18:47 ` Eric Northup
2012-03-14 10:37 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:52 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:13 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:58 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:06 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 11:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 10:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 9:51 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:04 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:40 ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:01 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 7:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 10:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-19 7:33 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 9:59 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 15:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 0:56 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 9:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 9:35 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 9:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:18 ` Corey Minyard
2012-03-21 16:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 17:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-21 17:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 18:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-21 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 1:05 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22 7:31 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-03-22 7:44 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22 8:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 7:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 7:40 ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:05 ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:54 ` Amit Shah
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