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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	minyard@acm.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Corey Minyard <tcminyard@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:31:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120322073111.GY22368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6A7AC8.5080604@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 09:05:12AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> At 03/22/2012 03:19 AM, Anthony Liguori Wrote:
> > On 03/21/2012 11:25 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 03/21/2012 06:18 PM, Corey Minyard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Look at drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_msghandler.c. It has code to send panic
> >>>> event over IMPI. The code is pretty complex. Of course if we a going to
> >>>> implement something more complex than simple hypercall for panic
> >>>> notification we better do something more interesting with it than just
> >>>> saying "panic happened", like sending stack traces on all cpus for
> >>>> instance.
> >>>
> >>> I doubt that's the best example, unfortunately.  The IPMI event log
> >>> has limited space and it has to be send a little piece at a time since
> >>> each log entry is 14 bytes.  It just prints the panic string, nothing
> >>> else.  Not that it isn't useful, it has saved my butt before.
> >>>
> >>> You have lots of interesting options with paravirtualization.  You
> >>> could, for instance, create a console driver that delivered all
> >>> console output efficiently through a hypercall.  That would be really
> >>> easy.  Or, as you mention, a custom way to deliver panic information.
> >>> Collecting information like stack traces would be harder to
> >>> accomplish, as I don't think there is currently a way to get it except
> >>> by sending it to printk.
> >>
> >> That already exists; virtio-console (or serial console emulation) can do
> >> the job.
> > 
> > I think the use case here is pretty straight forward: if the guest finds
> > itself in bad place, it wants to indicate that to the host.
> > 
> > We shouldn't rely on any device drivers or complex code.  It should be
> > as close to a single instruction as possible that can run even if
> > interrupts are disabled.
> > 
> > An out instruction fits this very well.  I think a simple protocol like:
> 
> This solution is more simple than using virtio-serial.
> 
> > 
> > inl PORT -> returns a magic number indicating the presence of qemucalls
> 
> I donot understantd this instruction's purpose.
> 
> > inl PORT+1 -> returns a bitmap of supported features
> 
> Hmm, we can execute this instruction when guest starts. If the userspace
> does not process panicked event, there is no need to notify it.
> 
> > 
> > outl PORT+1 -> data reg1
> > outl PORT+2 -> data reg2
> > outl PORT+N -> data regN
> 
> We can get the register value from vmcs. So there is no need to tell
> the register value to the host.
> 
No device should examine register value. Ideally QEMU would read
registers only during migration.

> If we decide to avoid touching hypervisor, I agree with this solution.
> 
> Thanks
> Wen Congyang
> > 
> > outl PORT -> qemucall of index value with arguments 1..N
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Anthony Liguori
> > 
> >>
> >> In fact the feature can be implemented 100% host side by searching for a
> >> panic string signature in the console logs.
> >>
> > 
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--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-08  7:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] kvm: set exit_reason to KVM_EXIT_GUEST_PANICKED " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v3] update linux-headers Wen Congyang
2012-03-08  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v3] deal with guest panicked event Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:08   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-08 10:11     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 10:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH " Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:28     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:36       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-08 11:52         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-08 11:56           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 22:22             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-21 19:01               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12  1:46             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-08 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked Avi Kivity
2012-03-09  1:21   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12  9:04     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-12 10:33       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13  6:44         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-13  8:54           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13  9:18         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-13 10:47           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14  8:29             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14  9:24               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14  9:53                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:07                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:26                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:29                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:46                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:48                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 11:11                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 13:07                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:13                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:14                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 13:16                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:25                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 18:46                                       ` Eric Northup
2012-03-15  7:01                                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-15 10:39                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-15 11:25                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-15 11:46                                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-16  8:05                                               ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:12                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  8:34                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 18:47                                       ` Eric Northup
2012-03-14 10:37                   ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:52                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:58                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:13                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:58                         ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:59                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:06                             ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 11:11                               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 11:17                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 10:59                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                       ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14  9:51               ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:04                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-14 10:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 10:40                   ` Amit Shah
2012-03-14 10:42                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-14 10:57                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-14 11:01                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21 19:04             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  7:33               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 10:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-19  7:33 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20  9:59   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-20 15:45     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21  0:56       ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21  9:11         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21  9:35           ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-21  9:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:18           ` Corey Minyard
2012-03-21 16:24             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 16:25             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 17:04               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-21 17:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-21 18:17                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-21 19:19               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22  1:05                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22  7:31                   ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-03-22  7:44                     ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-22  8:36                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:28                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:40                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:05   ` Wen Congyang
2012-04-02 10:54     ` Amit Shah

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