From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:53:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120326095338.GM22368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F703200.4050008@redhat.com>
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:08:16AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> Exactly. The types are no different, so there's no reason to
> >> discriminate against types that happen to live in qemu-provided data
> >> files vs. qemu code. They aren't instantiated, so we lose nothing by
> >> creating the factories (just so long as the factories aren't
> >> mass-producing objects).
> >
> >
> > At some point, I'd like to have type modules that are shared objects.
> > I'd like QEMU to start with almost no builtin types and allow the user
> > to configure which modules get loaded.
> >
> > In the long term, I'd like QEMU to be a small, robust core with the
> > vast majority of code relegated to modules with the user ultimately in
> > control of module loading.
> >
> > Yes, I'd want some module autoloading system but there should always
> > be a way to launch QEMU without loading any modules and then load a
> > very specific set of modules (as defined by the user).
> >
> > You can imagine this being useful for something like Common Criteria
> > certifications.
>
> Okay.
>
Modularised minimal QEMU may be a good thing, but how -nodefconfig helps
here? Won't you have the same effect if QEMU will load modules on demand,
only when they are actually needed (regardless of -nodefconfig). i.e
virtio-blk is loaded only if there is -device virtio-blk somewhere in
configuration.
> > It's obviously defined for a given release, just not defined long term.
> >
> >> If I see something like -nodefconfig, I assume it will create a bare
> >> bones guest that will not depend on any qemu defaults and will be stable
> >> across releases.
> >
> > That's not even close to what -nodefconfig is. That's pretty much
> > what -nodefaults is but -nodefaults has also had a fluid definition
> > historically.
>
> Okay. Let's just make sure to document -nodefconfig as version specific
> and -nodefaults as the stable way to create a bare bones guest (and
> define exactly what that means).
>
What is the reason libvirt uses -nodefconfig instead of -nodefaults now?
What the former does for them that the later doesn't?
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-26 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 14:54 [Qemu-devel] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt Jiri Denemark
2011-12-15 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 15:30 ` Jiri Denemark
2011-12-18 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2011-12-15 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-12-18 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-09 20:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-09 21:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 4:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-11 11:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-10 12:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-10 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-10 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 18:37 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-10 22:39 ` Doug Goldstein
2012-03-11 0:55 ` Andrew Cathrow
2012-03-11 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 14:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 15:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 15:49 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 16:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 17:41 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 17:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 17:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 18:53 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:12 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 20:00 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 20:19 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-13 8:32 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-14 0:11 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-12 12:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 14:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-11 12:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-13 14:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 9:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 13:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 14:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-25 10:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 20:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 9:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 12:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-26 9:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 9:53 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-03-26 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 16:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 11:24 ` Jiri Denemark
2012-03-26 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 12:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-20 18:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
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