From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:03:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120326120321.GO22368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F705A09.5070601@redhat.com>
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:59:05PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/26/2012 01:24 PM, Jiri Denemark wrote:
> > ...
> > > > The command line becomes unstable if you use -nodefconfig.
> > >
> > > -no-user-config solves this but I fully expect libvirt would continue to use
> > > -nodefconfig.
> >
> > Libvirt uses -nodefaults -nodefconfig because it wants to fully control how
> > the virtual machine will look like (mainly in terms of devices). In other
> > words, we don't want any devices to just magically appear without libvirt
> > knowing about them. -nodefaults gets rid of default devices that are built
> > directly in qemu. Since users can set any devices or command line options
> > (such as enable-kvm) into qemu configuration files in @SYSCONFDIR@, we need to
> > avoid reading those files as well. Hence we use -nodefconfig. However, we
> > would still like qemu to read CPU definitions, machine types, etc. once they
> > become externally loaded configuration (or however we decide to call it). That
> > said, when CPU definitions are moved into @DATADIR@, and -no-user-config is
> > introduced, I don't see any reason for libvirt to keep using -nodefconfig.
> >
> > I actually like
> > -no-user-config
> > more than
> > -nodefconfig -readconfig @DATADIR@/...
> > since it would avoid additional magic to detect what files libvirt should
> > explicitly pass to -readconfig but basically any approach that would allow us
> > to do read files only from @DATADIR@ is much better than what we have with
> > -nodefconfig now.
>
> That's how I see it as well.
>
+1
except that instead of -no-user-config we can do what most other
programs do. If config file is specified during invocation default one
is not used. After implementing -no-user-config (or similar) we can drop
-nodefconfig entirely since its only user will be gone it its semantics
is not clear.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-26 12:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 14:54 [Qemu-devel] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt Jiri Denemark
2011-12-15 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 15:30 ` Jiri Denemark
2011-12-18 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2011-12-15 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-12-18 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-09 20:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-09 21:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 4:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-11 11:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-10 12:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-10 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-10 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 18:37 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-10 22:39 ` Doug Goldstein
2012-03-11 0:55 ` Andrew Cathrow
2012-03-11 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 14:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 15:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 15:49 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 16:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 17:41 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 17:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 17:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 18:53 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:12 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 20:00 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 20:19 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-13 8:32 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-14 0:11 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-12 12:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 14:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-11 12:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-13 14:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 9:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 13:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 14:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-25 10:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 20:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 9:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 12:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-26 9:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 9:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 16:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 11:24 ` Jiri Denemark
2012-03-26 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 12:03 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-03-26 16:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-20 18:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
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