From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@petalogix.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, john.williams@petalogix.com,
edgar.iglesias@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] SPI: initial support
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:52:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201204041752.56850.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEgOgz7paY-LxAeaC25tvvzp9Ot0FKL2PsYQxhdjzZOrSVLaoA@mail.gmail.com>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Regarding using ssi, theres a few things that come to mind:
>
> Theres no sense of it being a multi-slave bus, its just a point to
> point link. SPI devices universally have the notion of the CS pin that
> tristates the device of the bus. Masters connect to a number of slaves
> and one-hot-decode the active slave. It would be tedious if all SPI
> controllers (of which i have two (only pushed one in this series),
> omap have theirs, Nokia may have something out of tree too), had to
> implement the\is common CS decoding behaviour. To that end, my SPI bus
> implementation has some infra-structure for managing this -
> spi_set_cs(). The spi_bus in this series is single master,
> multi-slave, where as ssi is point-to-point.
>
> Also as mentioned in earlier discussions with Peter, that api has no
> way of emulating the CS (sometimes called SS) pin. The m25p80 in this
> series (and potenitally other devices) has side effect associated with
> wiggling the cs pin, which can not be encapsulated by that ssi slave
> interface.
>
> It may be a case though that ssi is a superclass of spi - all SPI
> devices are SSI devices but not all SSI devices are SPI? To that end
> can we make SPI a child object of SSI with the desired extra behaviors
> mentioned in this thread? This kind of stuff is the whole reason for
> QOM.
I don't believe there is any difference between SSI and SPI. It's the exact
same thing - the same way that many devices support a "two-wire interface"
that is actually just I2C with a different name.
The behavior of the CS pin varies between devices. It sounds like you need a
bit of extra logic not present in the current ssi code. You should fix that,
not invent a whole new bus.
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-04 16:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-30 6:37 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] SPI bus support + Xilinx SPI controller Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-03-30 6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] SPI: initial support Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-03-30 7:37 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-30 7:50 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-02 17:39 ` Peter Maydell
2012-04-02 23:51 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-03 0:48 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-03 17:45 ` Paul Brook
2012-04-03 18:08 ` Peter Maydell
2012-04-03 21:22 ` Paul Brook
2012-04-04 0:48 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-04 16:52 ` Paul Brook [this message]
2012-04-05 0:32 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-05 7:18 ` Peter Maydell
2012-04-02 23:57 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-03 0:27 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-30 6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] m25p80: initial verion Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-04-03 7:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-04-04 12:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-05 0:47 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-05 12:38 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-30 6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] xilinx_spi: initial version Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-03-30 6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] petalogix-ml605: added spi controller with m25p80 Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
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