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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@petalogix.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, john.williams@petalogix.com,
	edgar.iglesias@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] SPI: initial support
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:52:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201204041752.56850.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEgOgz7paY-LxAeaC25tvvzp9Ot0FKL2PsYQxhdjzZOrSVLaoA@mail.gmail.com>

> Hi Paul,
> 
> Regarding using ssi, theres a few things that come to mind:
> 
> Theres no sense of it being a multi-slave bus, its just a point to
> point link. SPI devices universally have the notion of the CS pin that
> tristates the device of the bus. Masters connect to a number of slaves
> and one-hot-decode the active slave. It would be tedious if all SPI
> controllers (of which i have two (only pushed one in this series),
> omap have theirs, Nokia may have something out of tree too), had to
> implement the\is common CS decoding behaviour. To that end, my SPI bus
> implementation has some infra-structure for managing this -
> spi_set_cs(). The spi_bus in this series is single master,
> multi-slave, where as ssi is point-to-point.
> 
> Also as mentioned in earlier discussions with Peter, that api has no
> way of emulating the CS (sometimes called SS) pin. The m25p80 in this
> series (and potenitally other devices) has side effect associated with
> wiggling the cs pin, which can not be encapsulated by that ssi slave
> interface.
> 
> It may be a case though that ssi is a superclass of spi - all SPI
> devices are SSI devices but not all SSI devices are SPI? To that end
> can we make SPI a child object of SSI with the desired extra behaviors
> mentioned in this thread? This kind of stuff is the whole reason for
> QOM.

I don't believe there is any difference between SSI and SPI.  It's the exact 
same thing - the same way that many devices support a "two-wire interface" 
that is actually just I2C with a different name.

The behavior of the CS pin varies between devices.  It sounds like you need a 
bit of extra logic not present in the current ssi code.  You should fix that, 
not invent a whole new bus.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-04 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-30  6:37 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] SPI bus support + Xilinx SPI controller Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-03-30  6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] SPI: initial support Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-03-30  7:37   ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-30  7:50     ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-02 17:39   ` Peter Maydell
2012-04-02 23:51     ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-03  0:48       ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-03 17:45       ` Paul Brook
2012-04-03 18:08         ` Peter Maydell
2012-04-03 21:22           ` Paul Brook
2012-04-04  0:48             ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-04 16:52               ` Paul Brook [this message]
2012-04-05  0:32                 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-05  7:18                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-04-02 23:57     ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-04-03  0:27       ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-30  6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] m25p80: initial verion Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-04-03  7:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-04-04 12:53   ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-05  0:47     ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-05 12:38       ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-30  6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] xilinx_spi: initial version Peter A. G. Crosthwaite
2012-03-30  6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] petalogix-ml605: added spi controller with m25p80 Peter A. G. Crosthwaite

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