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From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	zwu.kernel@gmail.com, wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:30:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120525103004.23cfc4f4@doriath.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FBF86E0.7070908@redhat.com>

On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:19:28 +0200
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> Il 25/05/2012 15:18, Luiz Capitulino ha scritto:
> >> > 
> >> > Still not sure what you mean...
> > I meant it's a similar case. kqemu was a special case and maintenance burden.
> > We've dropped it and didn't regret. What's stopping us from doing the same
> > thing with vlans?
> 
> That we have an alternative, and that -net dump is actually useful.

I haven't reviewed the series yet, but -net dump can work without this,
can't it?

It's always possible to have alternatives in qemu, the point is how far
we're going on bloating it.

> >> >  we removed kqemu and didn't give an
> >> > alternative.  This time we are providing an alternative.
> > Alternatives already exist, we don't have to provide them.
> 
> Alternatives that require you to have root privileges (anything
> involving libvirt or iptables) are not really alternatives.

It seems to me that vde doesn't require root, but even if it does, moving
this outside of qemu would also be feasible.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-25 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-24 17:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/16] net: Add a hub net client zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/16] net: Use hubs for the vlan feature zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/16] net: Look up 'vlan' net clients using hubs zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/16] hub: Check that hubs are configured correctly zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/16] net: Drop vlan argument to qemu_new_net_client() zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/16] net: Remove vlan qdev property zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/16] net: Remove vlan code from net.c zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/16] net: Remove VLANState zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/16] net: Rename non_vlan_clients to net_clients zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/16] net: Rename VLANClientState to NetClientState zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/16] net: Rename vc local variables to nc zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/16] net: Rename qemu_del_vlan_client() to qemu_del_net_client() zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/16] net: Make the monitor output more reasonable hub info zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 20:34   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-25  0:48     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 12:00     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 13:49       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-25 13:58         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/16] net: cleanup deliver/deliver_iov func pointers zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 15/16] net: determine if packets can be sent before net queue deliver packets zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 16/16] hub: add the support for hub own flow control zwu.kernel
2012-05-25  7:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25  7:48     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 10:08       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 10:54         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25  8:04     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25  8:18     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-24 20:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25  0:47   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 12:49     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 10:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25 11:18     ` Markus Armbruster
2012-05-25 12:01       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25 12:30         ` Markus Armbruster
2012-05-25 12:53         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 12:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:07             ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:14               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:18                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:30                     ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2012-05-25 13:37                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:43                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:47                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:56                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-28 11:17                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-28 13:25                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
     [not found]                                   ` <m3ehq3tne0.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
2012-06-04  4:48                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-04  7:24                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-06-04  4:56           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-04 13:09             ` Luiz Capitulino

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