From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, yamahata@valinux.co.jp, quintela@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
akong@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] qapi: add qidl-generated qapi schema for rtc
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:03:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120605160318.GJ2916@illuin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FCDD174.2000405@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:29:24AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 05.06.2012 03:00, schrieb Michael Roth:
> > Signed-off-by: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > ---
> > qidl-generated/mc146818rtc.json | 1 +
> > 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > create mode 100644 qidl-generated/mc146818rtc.json
>
> I haven't looked at the Makefiles, but does this commit mean that the
> files aren't generated automatically but you have to run the generator
> manually after changing any device struct?
Nope, the files are automatically generated when changes are made to
QIDL sources and you do a build.
The reason they're still checked-in is so that changes to a device's
serialization schema can be "signed-off" by the author that made the
change. This applies to qidl-generated vmstate descriptions as well.
It also makes an automated `make check-qidl` and, in the case of
qidl-generated vmstate descriptions, `make check-vmstate` possible, so
that a submitter/maintainer can detect and bring attention to changes to
serialized device state that need to be addressed/signed-off when
testing/reviewing patches.
We could get part of the way there by just keeping tabs on changes to qidl
sources, but ultimately how we do the serialization is a matter of how the
generated visitors look, in which case the generated QAPI schemas are the more
reliable representation. Annotations are hints, schemas are ABI, so
tracking the latter is more important.
Similar rationale for vmstate: the relationship between annotations and
the generated vmstate descriptions isn't strong enough that we can
easily infer changes based on qidl annotations, and in many cases those
inferred changes will be overwritten by special handling in the vmstate
generator.
It is ugly though... and I'm certainly open to alternative approaches.
>
> Kevin
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-05 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-05 1:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Use QEMU IDL for device serialization/vmstate Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] qidl: add QEMU IDL processor Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 9:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:21 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 19:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 23:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 5:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-06 5:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:00 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 7:13 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 7:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 7:56 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 7:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 9:02 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 8:04 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 13:37 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 13:09 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 12:19 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 23:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:19 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 21:11 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06 7:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 21:36 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-07 7:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 1:25 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-06 7:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 8:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 8:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 9:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 9:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 11:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 23:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] qidl: add qc definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 11:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 14:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 21:44 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 23:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] qapi: add visitor interfaces for arrays Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] qapi: QmpOutputVisitor, implement array handling Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, support arrays and complex qapi definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, add gen support for existing types Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] qapi: add open-coded visitors for QEMUTimer/struct tm types Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] rtc: move RTCState declaration to header Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] rtc: add qc annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 10:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 22:07 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] Makefile: add infrastructure to incorporate qidl-generated files Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] qapi: add qidl-generated qapi schema for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 9:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:03 ` Michael Roth [this message]
2012-06-06 7:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-06 22:40 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] rtc: add a QOM property for accessing device state Michael Roth
2012-06-05 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 17:54 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] rtc: add _version() qidl annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] qidl: add qidl-based generation of vmstate field bindings Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] Makefile: add qidl-generation of vmstate field descriptions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] qidl: add qidl-generated vmstate fields for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] rtc: use qidl-generated vmstate bindings Michael Roth
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