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From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, quintela@redhat.com,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	owasserm@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	yamahata@valinux.co.jp, pbonzini@redhat.com, akong@redhat.com,
	afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] rtc: add qc annotations
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:07:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120605220712.GO2916@illuin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FCDFEB6.8070307@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:42:30PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/05/2012 01:40 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On 2012-06-05 12:25, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 06/05/2012 04:00 AM, Michael Roth wrote:
> >>> Add our annotations according to QIDL documentation.
> >>>
> >>> +qc_declaration typedef struct RTCState {
> >>> +    ISADevice _immutable dev;
> >>> +    MemoryRegion _immutable io;
> >>>      uint8_t cmos_data[128];
> >>>      uint8_t cmos_index;
> >>>      struct tm current_tm;
> >>>      int32_t base_year;
> >>> -    qemu_irq irq;
> >>> -    qemu_irq sqw_irq;
> >>> -    int it_shift;
> >>> +    qemu_irq _immutable irq;
> >>> +    qemu_irq _immutable sqw_irq;
> >> 
> >> How is qemu_irq immutable? We're raising and lowering it many times a
> >> second.  It's _derived, perhaps, but not immutable.
> > 
> > No, IRQState in its current form is immutable, doesn't contain any
> > volatile state.
> 
> Good point.  So it's just like any pointer: it depends on the pointed-to
> type.  If it saves its state, then great, but if the pointed-to type
> doesn't, then it's broken.
> 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> +    int32_t _immutable it_shift;
> >>>      /* periodic timer */
> >>>      QEMUTimer *periodic_timer;
> >>>      int64_t next_periodic_time;
> >>>      /* second update */
> >>>      int64_t next_second_time;
> >>> -    uint16_t irq_reinject_on_ack_count;
> >>> +    uint16_t _derived irq_reinject_on_ack_count;
> >> 
> >> It's not derived from anything.  It's _host, maybe.
> > 
> > I think it is _broken.

Agreed, using _derived was an error on my part

> 
> I think it's _complicated.  Migration involves downtime and so lost
> ticks.  In the case of RTC we probably need to trigger compensation code
> that will try to handle it according to policy.

We'd likely only be able to compensate based on calculated downtime or
something along that line. I think we'd still want to send accumulated ticks
as well, even if it's of little importance, since it's still guest state
of a sort (in the sense that it guest-perceivable) that we should avoid
discarding.

> 
> >>> +    LostTickPolicy _immutable lost_tick_policy;
> >> 
> >> _host; nothign prevents us from changing it dynamically in theory.
> > 
> > _host makes no sense to me. Either it is _immutable or _broken - or is
> > properly saved/restored. What should be the semantic of _host?
> 
> An emulated device manages some state, and also talks to a host device,
> often through an interface like BlockDriverState or CharState. _host is
> anything related to the host device that we should be able to
> reconstruct on resume.
> 
> Example of host state is a CharDriverState filename.  Even if we allow
> it to change, there is no point in migrating it since it belongs to the
> source namespace, not destination.
> 
> -- 
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-05 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-05  1:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Use QEMU IDL for device serialization/vmstate Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] qidl: add QEMU IDL processor Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05  9:25   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05  9:47     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 10:11       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:21     ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 19:56       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 23:40         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  5:12           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-06  5:43             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  7:30       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:00   ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11  7:13     ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11  7:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11  7:56         ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11  7:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11  9:02             ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11  8:04           ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 13:12         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 13:37           ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 13:09       ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:06   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 12:19     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 23:41       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  7:19       ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 21:11     ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06  7:31       ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 21:36         ` Michael Roth
2012-06-07  7:08           ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:51     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  1:25       ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-06  7:45       ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06  8:27         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  8:37           ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06  8:45             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  8:59               ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06  9:17                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  9:58                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 11:12                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 11:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 23:20     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] qidl: add qc definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05  9:25   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:35   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 11:26       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:42         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 14:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 21:44     ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 23:35       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] qapi: add visitor interfaces for arrays Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] qapi: QmpOutputVisitor, implement array handling Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, support arrays and complex qapi definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, add gen support for existing types Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] qapi: add open-coded visitors for QEMUTimer/struct tm types Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] rtc: move RTCState declaration to header Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] rtc: add qc annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:25   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 10:40     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 12:42       ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 22:07         ` Michael Roth [this message]
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] Makefile: add infrastructure to incorporate qidl-generated files Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] qapi: add qidl-generated qapi schema for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05  9:29   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:03     ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06  7:38       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-06 22:40         ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:11   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] rtc: add a QOM property for accessing device state Michael Roth
2012-06-05 14:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 17:54     ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] rtc: add _version() qidl annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] qidl: add qidl-based generation of vmstate field bindings Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] Makefile: add qidl-generation of vmstate field descriptions Michael Roth
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] qidl: add qidl-generated vmstate fields for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:26   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:38     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06  7:47       ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05  1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] rtc: use qidl-generated vmstate bindings Michael Roth

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