From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, quintela@redhat.com,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
owasserm@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
yamahata@valinux.co.jp, pbonzini@redhat.com, akong@redhat.com,
afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] rtc: add qc annotations
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:07:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120605220712.GO2916@illuin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FCDFEB6.8070307@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:42:30PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/05/2012 01:40 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On 2012-06-05 12:25, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 06/05/2012 04:00 AM, Michael Roth wrote:
> >>> Add our annotations according to QIDL documentation.
> >>>
> >>> +qc_declaration typedef struct RTCState {
> >>> + ISADevice _immutable dev;
> >>> + MemoryRegion _immutable io;
> >>> uint8_t cmos_data[128];
> >>> uint8_t cmos_index;
> >>> struct tm current_tm;
> >>> int32_t base_year;
> >>> - qemu_irq irq;
> >>> - qemu_irq sqw_irq;
> >>> - int it_shift;
> >>> + qemu_irq _immutable irq;
> >>> + qemu_irq _immutable sqw_irq;
> >>
> >> How is qemu_irq immutable? We're raising and lowering it many times a
> >> second. It's _derived, perhaps, but not immutable.
> >
> > No, IRQState in its current form is immutable, doesn't contain any
> > volatile state.
>
> Good point. So it's just like any pointer: it depends on the pointed-to
> type. If it saves its state, then great, but if the pointed-to type
> doesn't, then it's broken.
>
> >
> >>
> >>> + int32_t _immutable it_shift;
> >>> /* periodic timer */
> >>> QEMUTimer *periodic_timer;
> >>> int64_t next_periodic_time;
> >>> /* second update */
> >>> int64_t next_second_time;
> >>> - uint16_t irq_reinject_on_ack_count;
> >>> + uint16_t _derived irq_reinject_on_ack_count;
> >>
> >> It's not derived from anything. It's _host, maybe.
> >
> > I think it is _broken.
Agreed, using _derived was an error on my part
>
> I think it's _complicated. Migration involves downtime and so lost
> ticks. In the case of RTC we probably need to trigger compensation code
> that will try to handle it according to policy.
We'd likely only be able to compensate based on calculated downtime or
something along that line. I think we'd still want to send accumulated ticks
as well, even if it's of little importance, since it's still guest state
of a sort (in the sense that it guest-perceivable) that we should avoid
discarding.
>
> >>> + LostTickPolicy _immutable lost_tick_policy;
> >>
> >> _host; nothign prevents us from changing it dynamically in theory.
> >
> > _host makes no sense to me. Either it is _immutable or _broken - or is
> > properly saved/restored. What should be the semantic of _host?
>
> An emulated device manages some state, and also talks to a host device,
> often through an interface like BlockDriverState or CharState. _host is
> anything related to the host device that we should be able to
> reconstruct on resume.
>
> Example of host state is a CharDriverState filename. Even if we allow
> it to change, there is no point in migrating it since it belongs to the
> source namespace, not destination.
>
> --
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-05 22:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-05 1:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Use QEMU IDL for device serialization/vmstate Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] qidl: add QEMU IDL processor Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 9:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:21 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 19:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 23:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 5:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-06 5:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:00 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 7:13 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 7:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 7:56 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 7:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 9:02 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 8:04 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 13:37 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 13:09 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 12:19 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 23:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:19 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 21:11 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06 7:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 21:36 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-07 7:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 1:25 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-06 7:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 8:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 8:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 9:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 9:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 11:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 23:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] qidl: add qc definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 11:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 14:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 21:44 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 23:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] qapi: add visitor interfaces for arrays Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] qapi: QmpOutputVisitor, implement array handling Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, support arrays and complex qapi definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, add gen support for existing types Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] qapi: add open-coded visitors for QEMUTimer/struct tm types Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] rtc: move RTCState declaration to header Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] rtc: add qc annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 10:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 22:07 ` Michael Roth [this message]
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] Makefile: add infrastructure to incorporate qidl-generated files Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] qapi: add qidl-generated qapi schema for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 9:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:03 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06 7:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-06 22:40 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] rtc: add a QOM property for accessing device state Michael Roth
2012-06-05 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 17:54 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] rtc: add _version() qidl annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] qidl: add qidl-based generation of vmstate field bindings Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] Makefile: add qidl-generation of vmstate field descriptions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] qidl: add qidl-generated vmstate fields for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] rtc: use qidl-generated vmstate bindings Michael Roth
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