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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] pci: Add pci_device_route_intx_to_irq
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:41:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120610104120.GF6250@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FD47217.7020909@web.de>

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:08:23PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-06-10 11:55, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:46:38PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> On 2012-06-07 18:28, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>> On 2012-06-07 16:32, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 10:52:13AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>>>> @@ -1089,6 +1093,14 @@ static void pci_set_irq(void *opaque, int irq_num, int level)
> >>>>>>      pci_change_irq_level(pci_dev, irq_num, change);
> >>>>>>  }
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> +PCIINTxRoute pci_device_route_intx_to_irq(PCIDevice *dev, int pin)
> >>>>>> +{
> >>>>>> +    PCIBus *bus = dev->host_bus;
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +    assert(bus->route_intx_to_irq);
> >>>>>> +    return bus->route_intx_to_irq(bus->irq_opaque, dev->host_intx_pin[pin]);
> >>>>>> +}
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>>  /***********************************************************/
> >>>>>>  /* monitor info on PCI */
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just an idea: can devices cache this result, bypassing the
> >>>>> intx to irq lookup on data path?
> >>>>
> >>>> That lookup is part of set_irq which we don't bypass so far and where
> >>>> this is generally trivial. If we want to cache the effects of set_irq as
> >>>> well, I guess things would become pretty complex (e.g. due to vmstate
> >>>> compatibility), and I'm unsure if it would buy us much.
> >>>
> >>> This is less for performance but more for making
> >>> everyone use the same infrastructure rather than
> >>> assigned devices being the weird case.
> >>
> >> Device assignment is weird. It bypasses all state updates as it does not
> >> have to bother about migratability.
> >>
> >> Well, of course we could cache the host bridge routing result as well,
> >> for every device. It would have to be in addition to host_intx_pin. But
> >> the result would look pretty strange to me.
> >>
> >> In any case, I would prefer to do this, if at all, on top of this
> >> series, specifically as it will require to touch all host bridges.
> > 
> > I'd like to ponder this a bit more then.
> > 
> > If the claim is that device assignment is only needed for
> > piix anyway, then why not make it depend on piix *explicitly*?
> > Yes ugly but this will make it very easy to find and
> > address any missing pieces.
> 
> Because it is conceptually independent of the PIIX, we will need it for
> successors of that x86 chipset as well, and I won't add the ugly hack of
> qemu-kvm upstream

So you look at an API and see it requires a route
callback. And you ask "why doesn't chipset X implement it"?
And the answer is "because it's only used by device assignment".
Which you will only know if you read this thread. So it's
a hack. And I'd rather have the hacks in device-assignment.c
than in pci.c even if the former are nastier.

> > 
> > As it is you are adding APIs that in theory address
> > non PIIX issues but in practice don't implement for non
> > PIIX. So we never really know.
> 
> I once hacked q35 to make it work with device assignment. This really
> requires something like this.
 
Yes I'm aware of this motivation. This does not do much to
address the concerns though.

> It actually requires something generic,
> independent of PCI, but that's too much for this round.
> 
> Jan

And this just makes the concerns worse :(

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-10 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-04  8:52 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] pci: Cleanups & preparations for KVM device assignment Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] pci: Refactor pci_change_irq_level Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 11:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] pci: Fold pci_bus_new_inplace into pci_bus_new Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 12:51   ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-07 15:07     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] pci: Introduce cached device INTx routing Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 11:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] pci: Rename map_irq to route_pin Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 11:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 13:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] pci: Add pci_device_route_intx_to_irq Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 14:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-07 15:10     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 16:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-07 16:46         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 16:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10  9:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:08             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 10:41               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-06-10 10:49                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 10:53                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 14:19                   ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 14:43                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 15:25                       ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 15:55                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 16:30                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 16:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 17:04                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] pci: Add INTx routing notifier Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 13:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-07 15:13     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-08 12:47   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 " Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10  9:48   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:05     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 10:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:44         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 11:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 11:18             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 11:39               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 12:09                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 12:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 12:33                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 12:42                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 12:47                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 13:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 12:32               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] pci: Make domain and bus unsigned in pci_read_devaddr Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] pci: Export pci_parse_devaddr instead of pci_read_devaddr Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] pci: Introduce and apply PCIDeviceAddress Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10  9:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:10     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pci: Fix coding style of pci_parse_devaddr Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] Move pci_parse_devaddr to qdev-properties Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 12:57   ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-07 15:11     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 15:56       ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-08 10:57         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-08 12:03           ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-08 12:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-08 12:18               ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-08 12:45                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-08 14:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-08 14:20                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-08 13:55     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-08 19:21       ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] qdev-properties: Use qemu_parse_pci_devaddr for pci-devfn property Jan Kiszka
2012-06-04  8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] qdev-properties: Add pci-devaddr property Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10  9:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:14     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 10:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:52         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 10:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 11:00             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 11:17               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 11:25                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 12:01                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 13:41                     ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 14:03                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 14:41                         ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 14:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 15:15                             ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 15:37                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 15:58                                 ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 16:22                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 17:29                                     ` Alex Williamson
2012-06-10 17:57                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 13:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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