From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SgzWC-0005wd-9S for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:35:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SgzW5-0000o5-QC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:34:55 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com ([209.85.210.45]:65374) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SgzW5-0000n6-HX for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:34:49 -0400 Received: by dadn2 with SMTP id n2so7950689dad.4 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:34:42 +0900 From: Takuya Yoshikawa Message-Id: <20120619233442.d9e64a17f9a29d9ed3faff49@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE08640.3060400@codemonkey.ws> References: <87r4tchcmo.fsf@elfo.mitica> <8762anl84w.fsf@elfo.mitica> <4FE08640.3060400@codemonkey.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for Tuesday, June 19th List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: KVM devel mailing list , Isaku Yamahata , quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Orit Wasserman , Michael Roth On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:01:36 -0500 Anthony Liguori wrote: > I'm not at all convinced that postcopy is a good idea. There needs a clear > expression of what the value proposition is that's backed by benchmarks. Those > benchmarks need to include latency measurements of downtime which so far, I've > not seen. > > I don't want to take any postcopy patches until this discussion happens. FWIW: I rather see postcopy as a way of migrating guests forcibly and I know a service in which such a way is needed: emergency migration. There is also a product which does live migration when some hardware problems are detected (as a semi-FT solution) -- in such cases, we cannot wait until the guest becomes calm. Although I am not certain whether QEMU can be used for such products, it may be worth thinking about. Thanks, Takuya