From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] virtio-rng and RngBackend infrastructure (v2)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:16:32 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120704114632.GB11292@amit.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201207012306.36639.paul@codesourcery.com>
On (Sun) 01 Jul 2012 [23:06:36], Paul Brook wrote:
> > This series depends on my QOM -object series that I just posted.
> >
> > In Amit's thread on virtio-rng, danpb mentioned that we really ought to
> > have a proper RNG backend infrastructure and of course he's correct on
> > that.
> >
> > Now that we have QOM, I wanted to demonstrate how we can use QOM to
> > construct a complete backend without adding any new infrastructure.
> >
> > I've now implemented a urandom and egd backend and tested them. I think
> > the first three patches are ready to go.
>
> I never really understood why this exists in the first place. It's a simple
> readonly charcter device. IMHO you should be using virtio-serial. This is
> virtio-console v.s. virtio-serial all over again.
> The only thing close to a reason I've heard is that guest OS is incompetent
> and can't source random rata from a serial device.
Linux has a virtio-rng driver for quite a while; some other hypervisor
implementation may have the corresponding device, I'm not aware of
it. This series just adds a corresponding device to qemu.
You're right that it's just a chardev interface, and virtio-serial
would've been ideal for this, but given Linux has a driver already,
it's best to add the device to qemu.
> Even accepting the pointless guest device, I see absolutely no reason to have
> special infrastructure for this within qemu. Character devices do everything
> you need. Creating annother "read stream of data" API is needless duplication
> and only going to reintroduce bugs we already fixed in the character device
> layer.
Well I do agree with this qemu doesn't really need to bother about the
various ways of getting random numbers, just accept them over a
chardev and fwd them to the guest.
Amit
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2012-07-01 22:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] virtio-rng and RngBackend infrastructure (v2) Paul Brook
2012-07-04 11:46 ` Amit Shah [this message]
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2012-07-06 12:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] virtio-rng: hardware random number generator device Amit Shah
2012-07-11 9:32 ` Dor Laor
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