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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH 0/3] versioned CPU models / per-machine-type aliases
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:29:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120726142900.GF27859@shell.eng.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50114ECB.1020609@suse.de>

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 04:06:03PM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote:
> Am 26.07.2012 15:53, schrieb Eduardo Habkost:
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 06:43:25PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This is the first try at a simple system to make the CPU model definitions
> >>> versioned (to allow them to get bug fixes while allowing migration from older
> >>> versions and keeping command-line compatibility), and per- machine-type aliases
> >>> for compatibility.
> >>>
> >>> The lack of CPU model versioning is blocking multiple bug fixes that are
> >>> necessary on CPU model definitions, but can't be included today because they
> >>> would break migration.
> >>>
> >>> Later, after this gets in (or at least gets some feedback), I plan to send a
> >>> proposal for a machine-friendly CPU feature / CPU model probing interface that
> >>> libvirt could use.
> >>
> >> This isn't the right approach.  The CPU properties should be exposed as
> >> QOM properties which then allows the machine type globals to be used to
> >> control stuff like this.
> > 
> > I would like to use global properties for this, but the obstacles I have
> > found were:
> > 
> > - As far as I can see in the code, global properties are usable only by
> >   qdev objects, and CPUs were not qdevfied yet
> 
> After Hackweek I plan to put together some compromise or even multiple
> alternatives. We definitely need this for multiple open issues.
> 
> > - The per-machine-type properties I need to set are for CPU models, not
> >   CPUs.
> >   - For example: if we fix the Nehalem CPU model by changing the "level"
> >     field, we need to make the pc-1.1 and lower machine-types to keep
> >     the old "level" value, but only on the Nehalem CPU model
> 
> Is that part crying for CPU subclasses? Or what is the problem there?
> (Still have a mail about -cpudef in my drafts folder, need to post RFC.)

Maybe, yes.

If we have the subclasses, then the only problem I see is that global
properties currently require qdev. Maybe having a simple interface
non-qdev objects can use to query for global properties would solve
that?

-- 
Eduardo

      reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-25 18:18 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH 0/3] versioned CPU models / per-machine-type aliases Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-25 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH 1/3] vl.c: extract qemu_machine_init() function Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-25 22:18   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2012-07-30 16:19     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-25 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH 2/3] per-machine-type CPU model alias system Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-25 22:46   ` Andreas Färber
2012-07-25 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH 3/3] x86: pc: versioned CPU model names & compatibility aliases Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-25 22:52   ` Andreas Färber
2012-07-26 14:24     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-26 14:31       ` Andreas Färber
2012-07-26 14:48         ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-31 13:22           ` Igor Mammedov
2012-07-31 13:44             ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-26 14:33   ` Jiri Denemark
2012-07-26 14:54     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-25 23:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH 0/3] versioned CPU models / per-machine-type aliases Anthony Liguori
2012-07-26 13:53   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-07-26 14:06     ` Andreas Färber
2012-07-26 14:29       ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]

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