From: Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:20:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120731082011.GP29361@garlic.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87obmx491u.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 09:29:01AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:
>
> >>> Virtio makes sense for qxl, but for now we have the original pci model
> >>> which I don't see a reason why it can't work for ppc.
> >>
> >> I'm sure it can work for PPC given enough effort. But I think the
> >> question becomes, why not invest that effort in moving qxl to the
> >> standard transport that the rest of our PV devices use.
> >
> > The drm drivers for the current model are needed anyway; so moving to
> > virtio is extra effort, not an alternative.
>
> This is just a point in time statement. If we were serious about using
> virtio then we could quickly introduce a virtio transport and only
> target the DRM drivers at the virtio transport.
>
> > Note virtio doesn't support mapping framebuffers yet
>
> Yes. I haven't seen a good proposal yet on how to handle this. I think
> this is the main problem to solve.
The only thing I can add here is perhaps we could use scatter-gather
lists of pages instead of large framebuffer. When just passing commands
from guest->host->client this would mean guests constructs list -> host
reads from list to socket -> client unchanged. For rendering locally on
the host (client wants a screenshot, host wants a screenshot) this would
be a lot of work, basically having a non linear framebuffer version of
pixman. The upside is that you don't need to modify virtio and can use
guest ram.
>
> > or the entire vga compatibility stuff
>
> This is actually independent of virtio. A virtio-pci device could
> expose it's class code as a VGA adapter and also handle I/O accesses for
> the legacy region. This is strictly a PC-ism.
>
> For non-virtio-pci versions of the device, the legacy I/O area would not exist.
>
> > so the pc-oriented card will have to be a mix of
> > virtio and stdvga multiplexed on one pci card (maybe two functions, but
> > I'd rather avoid that).
>
> Yes. We could modify stdvga to expose the VGA ram area as the second
> bar and make the first bar a virtio-pci compatible area. This would
> require modifying the VGA bios to understand the change but otherwise,
> should be compatible.
>
> It would take modeling VGACommonState as a proper device and then it's a
> pretty simple process of embedding a VGACommonState within a virtio-pci
> device. It should work fairly well.
>
> It gets a little complicated in terms of who owns the DisplayState but
> that's a solvable problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
> >
> > --
> > error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
>
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-30 6:24 [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 12:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:24 ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 20:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 22:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31 8:10 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 12:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 13:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 14:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 23:47 ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-31 3:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-01 23:29 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-06 13:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31 8:20 ` Alon Levy [this message]
2012-07-30 22:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31 0:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31 3:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 13:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-07 5:30 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 6:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:19 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 15:42 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 19:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03 6:45 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-03 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-07 7:00 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-07 8:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 13:05 ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-07 14:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 19:43 ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-08 6:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-08 14:14 ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-09 6:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 15:18 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-30 15:30 ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-30 15:44 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-31 8:44 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-07-31 10:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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