From: Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:45:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120803064532.GR29361@garlic.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739465sea.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:22:37PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:
>
> > Am 30.07.2012 18:19, schrieb Alon Levy:
> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 09:54:27PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 14:25 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> [...] why not go all the way to qxl?
> >>>>
> >>>> That will give you better graphics performance with no need to hack.
> >>>
> >>> Well, qxl is pretty awful from what I can see so far. [...]
> >>
> >> I would love to hear something more specific about this. I assume you
> >> are talking about libspice-server and not the device itself, since the
> >> device itself has nothing specifically matching windows.
> >
> > I can't comment on what Ben meant, but from my perspective the really
> > awful thing about SPICE was its huge tree of dependencies, including a
> > very specific version of celt that we now need to package and maintain
> > specifically for SPICE. At least during the big QOM refactorings.
>
> Ack.
>
> This is why I've been advocating for a new PV device model that can
> negotiation in full SPICE support.
>
> Then we could keep libspice an optional dependency, but move all guests
> to use a single graphics driver. Likewise, management tools wouldn't
> need to worry about multiple types of graphics cards.
This sounds great, but how would that negotiation work? Do you intend
for a VGA device (i.e. pci vendor & product id's of cirrus) that is also
a virtio device and a guest driver will recognize this by poking some io
ports or looking at another pci field?
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
> >
> > Elsewhere QEMU is built around the principle of opting individual
> > features in rather than requiring a whole bunch of stuff just to do a
> > basic qxl compile test for patches.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > --
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> > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg
>
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-30 6:24 [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 12:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:24 ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 20:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 22:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31 8:10 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 12:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 13:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 14:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 23:47 ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-31 3:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-01 23:29 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-06 13:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31 8:20 ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 22:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31 0:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31 3:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 13:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-07 5:30 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 6:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:19 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 15:42 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 19:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03 6:45 ` Alon Levy [this message]
2012-08-03 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-07 7:00 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-07 8:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 13:05 ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-07 14:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 19:43 ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-08 6:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-08 14:14 ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-09 6:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 15:18 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-30 15:30 ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-30 15:44 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-31 8:44 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-07-31 10:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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