From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] pseries: Use new hook to correct reset sequence
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 11:45:16 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120808014516.GQ16664@truffala.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50219787.2000407@suse.de>
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 12:32:39AM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote:
> Am 08.08.2012 00:02, schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt:
> > On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 17:01 +0200, Andreas Färber wrote:
> >>
> >> I have posted a suggestion where CPU reset is triggered by "the
> >> machine
> >> as an abstract concept" (needs a bit of tweaking still, but the
> >> general
> >> idea is there).
> >> Based on that, shouldn't it be rather easy to add a Notifier similar
> >> to
> >> "machine init done" that lets individual machines do post-reset setup?
> >> I.e. not have QEMUMachine trigger and control the reset.
> >>
> >
> > Note that we really want pre and post reset vs the device reset.
> >
> > That's why the machine should be the one in charge. The top level of the
> > reset sequencing is -not- the CPU, it's the machine. All machines (or
> > SoCs) have some kind of reset controller and provide facilities for
> > resetting individual devices, busses, processor cores.... the global
> > "system" reset (when it exists) itself might have interesting ordering
> > or sequencing requirements.
> >
> > Now, to fix our immediate problem on ppc for 1.2 the hook proposed by
> > Anthony for which David sent a patch does the job just fine, it allows
> > us to clean out all our iommu tables before the device-reset, meaning
> > that in-flights DMA cannot overwrite the various "files" (SLOF image
> > etc.... that are auto-loaded via reset handlers implicitely created by
> > load_image_targphys), and we can then do some post-initializations as
> > well to get things ready for a restart (rebuild the device-tree, etc...)
>
> That's all good, except for embedded machines without such implicit
> reset handling. It does contradict the "a machine is just a config file,
> setting up QOM objects" concept, but I was not the one to push that! :)
>
> What I was thinking about however were those mentioned individual cores
> being reset using cpu_reset(). If we want to piggy-back some
> machine-specific register initialization for individual CPUStates then
> QEMUMachine::reset is not going to be enough because it only gets
> triggered for complete system reset. My suggestion was thus to just call
> cpu_reset() in your QEMUMachine::reset and have cpu_reset() take care of
> its initialization wherever called from. Any of these solutions are easy
> to implement for 1.2 if agreement is reached what people want.
So, I more or less reaslied that myself and my new version of the
reset patch (which I expect to send out later today) kind of does
that. I no longer do the machine specific CPU state setup from the
QEMUMachine::reset, it's done from the per-cpu reset handler. The
QEMUMachine::reset just does the special setup that's only for the
CPU0 entry conditions, which *is* specific to a full system reset (not
that I think we can get an individual CPU reset on pseries, anyway).
> What I am missing from Anthony's side is some communication to machine
> maintainers on the course to adopt before applying random patches. Right
> now x86 and ppc are moving into opposite directions and arm, mips, etc.
> maintainers may not even be aware of ongoing changes, and there's a
> pending uc32 machine that should be reviewed in this light.
So.. having the CPU reset at the top of the tree definitely makes no
sense - if nothing else, *which* cpu when there's more than one.
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-08 1:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-02 2:10 [Qemu-devel] [0/2] Allow machine to control ordering of reset David Gibson
2012-08-02 2:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Allow QEMUMachine to override reset sequencing David Gibson
2012-08-02 2:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-02 3:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-02 15:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-02 20:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-02 20:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03 2:54 ` David Gibson
2012-08-03 3:08 ` David Gibson
2012-08-02 15:00 ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-08-03 2:25 ` David Gibson
2012-08-02 2:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] pseries: Use new hook to correct reset sequence David Gibson
2012-08-02 15:44 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 18:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-02 18:38 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 19:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03 2:37 ` David Gibson
2012-08-03 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03 13:57 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-03 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03 14:35 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-03 14:51 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-03 15:01 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-03 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-07 22:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-07 22:32 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-08 0:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-08 7:58 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08 8:44 ` David Gibson
2012-08-08 1:45 ` David Gibson [this message]
2012-08-08 15:22 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-09 0:12 ` David Gibson
2012-08-03 2:31 ` David Gibson
2012-08-03 15:13 ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-06 0:31 ` David Gibson
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