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From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	eblake@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/34] qmp: query-block: add 'valid_encryption_key' field
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:00:16 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120810140016.0fb5d3eb@doriath.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87boiivh69.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:35:26 +0200
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:

> Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:56:11 +0200
> > Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Revisited this one on review of v2, replying here for context.
> >> 
> >> Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:35:54 +0200
> >> > Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> >  block.c          | 1 +
> >> >> >  qapi-schema.json | 7 +++++--
> >> >> >  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > diff --git a/block.c b/block.c
> >> >> > index b38940b..9c113b8 100644
> >> >> > --- a/block.c
> >> >> > +++ b/block.c
> >> >> > @@ -2445,6 +2445,7 @@ BlockInfoList *qmp_query_block(Error **errp)
> >> >> >              info->value->inserted->ro = bs->read_only;
> >> >> >              info->value->inserted->drv = g_strdup(bs->drv->format_name);
> >> >> >              info->value->inserted->encrypted = bs->encrypted;
> >> >> > +            info->value->inserted->valid_encryption_key = bs->valid_key;
> >> >> >              if (bs->backing_file[0]) {
> >> >> >                  info->value->inserted->has_backing_file = true;
> >> >> >                  info->value->inserted->backing_file = g_strdup(bs->backing_file);
> >> >> > diff --git a/qapi-schema.json b/qapi-schema.json
> >> >> > index bc55ed2..1b2d7f5 100644
> >> >> > --- a/qapi-schema.json
> >> >> > +++ b/qapi-schema.json
> >> >> > @@ -400,6 +400,8 @@
> >> >> >  #
> >> >> >  # @encrypted: true if the backing device is encrypted
> >> >> >  #
> >> >> > +# @valid_encryption_key: true if a valid encryption key has been set
> >> >> > +#
> >> >> >  # @bps: total throughput limit in bytes per second is specified
> >> >> >  #
> >> >> >  # @bps_rd: read throughput limit in bytes per second is specified
> >> >> > @@ -419,8 +421,9 @@
> >> >> >  { 'type': 'BlockDeviceInfo',
> >> >> >    'data': { 'file': 'str', 'ro': 'bool', 'drv': 'str',
> >> >> >              '*backing_file': 'str', 'encrypted': 'bool',
> >> >> > -            'bps': 'int', 'bps_rd': 'int', 'bps_wr': 'int',
> >> >> > -            'iops': 'int', 'iops_rd': 'int', 'iops_wr': 'int'} }
> >> >> > +            'valid_encryption_key': 'bool', 'bps': 'int',
> >> >> > +            'bps_rd': 'int', 'bps_wr': 'int', 'iops': 'int',
> >> >> > +            'iops_rd': 'int', 'iops_wr': 'int'} }
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >  ##
> >> >> >  # @BlockDeviceIoStatus:
> >> >> 
> >> >> BlockDeviceInfo is API, isn't it?
> >> >
> >> > Yes.
> >> >
> >> >> Note that bs->valid_key currently implies bs->encrypted.  bs->valid_key
> >> >> && !bs->encrypted is impossible.  Should we make valid_encryption_key
> >> >> only available when encrypted?
> >> >
> >> > I don't think so. It's a bool, so it's ok for it to be false when
> >> > encrypted is false.
> >> 
> >> What bothers me is encrypted=false, valid_encryption_key=true.
> >
> > Disappearing keys is worse, IMHO (assuming that that situation is impossible
> > in practice, of course).
> 
> It's fundamentally three states: unencrypted, encrypted-no-key,
> encrypted-got-key.  I'm fine with mapping these onto two bools, it's how
> the block layer does it.  You may want to consider a single enumeration
> instead.

That's arguable. But I like the bools slightly better because they allow
clients to do a true/false check vs. having to check against an enum value.

Again, that's arguable.

> >> >> valid_encryption_key is a bit long for my taste.  Yours may be
> >> >> different.
> >> >
> >> > We should choose more descriptive and self-documenting names for the
> >> > protocol. Besides, I can't think of anything shorter that won't get
> >> > cryptic.
> >> >
> >> > Suggestions are always welcome though :)
> >> 
> >> valid_encryption_key sounds like the value is the valid key.
> >
> > That's exactly what it is.
> 
> Err, isn't the value bool?  The key value is a string...

Ah, sorry, I read "sounds like true means the key is valid even for an
invalid key". I've renamed it to encryption_key_missing, should be better
(although I could also do encryption_key_is_missing).

> >> got_crypt_key?  Also avoids "valid".  Good, because current encrypted
> >> formats don't actually validate the key; they happily accept any key.
> >
> > That's a block layer bug, not QMP's.
> >
> > QMP clients are going to be misguided by valid_encryption_key the same way
> > they are with the block_passwd command or how we suffer from it internally
> > when calling bdrv_set_key() (which also manifests itself in HMP).
> >
> > Fixing the bug where it is will automatically fix all its instances.
> 
> It's not fixable for existing image formats, and thus existing images.

Why not? I'd expect that changing AES_set_decrypt_key() to fail for an
invalid key wouldn't affect images, am I wrong?

> You could even call it a feature that makes it (marginally) harder to
> brute-force keys (I don't buy that argument myself).

I don't, either.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-10 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-02  1:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/34]: add new error format Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/34] monitor: drop unused monitor debug code Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/34] qerror: QERR_AMBIGUOUS_PATH: drop %(object) from human msg Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/34] qerror: QERR_DEVICE_ENCRYPTED: add filename info to " Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/34] qerror: reduce public exposure Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/34] qerror: drop qerror_abort() Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/34] qerror: avoid passing qerr pointer Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 11:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 13:44     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/34] qerror: QError: drop file, linenr, func Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/34] qerror: qerror_format(): return an allocated string Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/34] qerror: don't delay error message construction Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/34] error: " Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/34] qmp: query-block: add 'valid_encryption_key' field Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 11:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 13:54     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-10  7:56       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-10 13:33         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-10 16:35           ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-10 17:00             ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2012-08-10 17:17               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-10 17:50                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-11  7:45                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-13 13:35                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-13 13:50                       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-13 14:02                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/34] hmp: hmp_cont(): don't rely on QERR_DEVICE_ENCRYPTED Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 11:53   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 14:22     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-10  8:42       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-10 14:22         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-10 16:37           ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/34] hmp: hmp_change(): " Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 13:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 13:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-02 13:53       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 13:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-02 14:53           ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 14:51       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 14:42     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/34] net: inet_connect(), inet_connect_opts(): add in_progress argument Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 15:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/34] net: inet_connect(), inet_connect_opts(): return -errno Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 13:41   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 15:50     ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 16:49       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-06  6:52       ` Amos Kong
2012-08-06 19:59         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/34] migration: don't rely on QERR_SOCKET_* Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/34] qerror: drop QERR_SOCKET_CONNECT_IN_PROGRESS Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 15:58   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-06  7:04     ` Amos Kong
2012-08-02 16:54   ` Michael Roth
2012-08-02 17:08     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-03 18:26       ` Michael Roth
2012-08-03 20:31         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/34] error: drop unused functions Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/34] block: block_int: include qerror.h Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/34] hmp: hmp.h: include qdict.h Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/34] qapi: qapi-types.h: don't include qapi/qapi-types-core.h Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/34] qapi: generate correct enum names for camel case enums Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/34] qapi: don't convert enum strings to lowercase Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/34] qapi-schema: add ErrorClass enum Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/34] qerror: qerror_table: don't use C99 struct initializers Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 16:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/34] error, qerror: add ErrorClass argument to error functions Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 16:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/34] qerror: add proper ErrorClass value for QERR_ macros Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 17:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/34] error: add error_get_class() Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/34] qmp: switch to the new error format on the wire Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 17:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02 17:19     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/34] qemu-ga: " Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-03 17:44   ` Michael Roth
2012-08-03 17:56     ` Eric Blake
2012-08-03 18:02       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/34] error, qerror: pass desc string to error calls Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 17:19   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 32/34] qerror: drop qerror_table and qerror_format() Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 33/34] error: drop error_get_qobject()/error_set_qobject() Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 17:20   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-02  1:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 34/34] error, qerror: drop QDict member Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 13:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/34]: add new error format Luiz Capitulino
2012-08-02 17:22 ` Markus Armbruster

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