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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8] kvm: notify host when the guest is panicked
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:24:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120813202452.GA10321@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50295A17.8010404@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 01:48:39PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 08/13/2012 12:21 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 10:43:01AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >> We can know the guest is panicked when the guest runs on xen.
> >> But we do not have such feature on kvm.
> >>
> >> Another purpose of this feature is: management app(for example:
> >> libvirt) can do auto dump when the guest is panicked. If management
> >> app does not do auto dump, the guest's user can do dump by hand if
> >> he sees the guest is panicked.
> >>
> >> We have three solutions to implement this feature:
> >> 1. use vmcall
> >> 2. use I/O port
> >> 3. use virtio-serial.
> >>
> >> We have decided to avoid touching hypervisor. The reason why I choose
> >> choose the I/O port is:
> >> 1. it is easier to implememt
> >> 2. it does not depend any virtual device
> >> 3. it can work when starting the kernel
> > 
> > How about searching for the "Kernel panic - not syncing" string 
> > in the guests serial output? Say libvirtd could take an action upon
> > that?
> > 
> > Advantages:
> > - It works for all architectures.
> > - It does not depend on any virtual device.
> 
> But it _does_ depend on a serial console,

Which already exists and is supported.

>  and furthermore requires
> libvirt to tee the serial console (right now, libvirt can treat the
> console as an opaque pass-through to the end user, but if you expect
> libvirt to parse the serial console for a particular string, you've lost
> some efficiency).
> 
> > - It works as early as serial console output does (panics before
> > that should be rare).
> > - It allows you to see why the guest panicked.
> 
> I think your arguments for a serial console have already been made and
> refuted in earlier versions of this patch series, which is WHY this
> series is still applicable.

Refuted why, exactly? Efficiency to parse serial console output in
libvirt should not be a major issue surely?

Either way:

The device should be arch independent, as "panic" is not specific 
to a particular architecture. For example virtio which would also work
on S390.

Custom IO port == virtual device, so that depends on virtual
device already.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-13 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-08  2:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8] kvm: notify host when the guest is panicked Wen Congyang
2012-08-08  2:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 1/6] start vm after reseting it Wen Congyang
2012-08-08  2:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 2/6] kvm: Update kernel headers Wen Congyang
2012-08-08  2:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 3/6] add a new runstate: RUN_STATE_GUEST_PANICKED Wen Congyang
2012-08-08  2:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 4/6] add a new qevent: QEVENT_GUEST_PANICKED Wen Congyang
2012-08-08  2:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 5/6] introduce a new qom device to deal with panicked event Wen Congyang
2012-08-08 19:01   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-22  7:30     ` Wen Congyang
2012-08-25  7:36       ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-08  2:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 6/6] allower the user to disable pv event support Wen Congyang
2012-08-08  9:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8] kvm: notify host when the guest is panicked Andrew Jones
2012-08-08  9:28   ` Wen Congyang
2012-08-13 18:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 19:48   ` Eric Blake
2012-08-13 20:24     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2012-08-14  7:47       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 15:29         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-14 15:50           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14  8:56   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-08-14 10:42     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:55       ` Yan Vugenfirer
2012-08-14 15:01         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 15:42         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-14 18:53           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14 19:19             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-14 19:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14 20:53                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-14 22:59                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-15  0:25                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8] kvm: notify host when the guest is panicked\ Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-22  6:33                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8] kvm: notify host when the guest is panicked Wen Congyang
2012-08-15  9:56                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-15 11:42                   ` Yan Vugenfirer
2012-08-15 11:38                 ` Yan Vugenfirer
2012-08-14 19:58             ` Peter Maydell

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