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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] HACKING: remove bogus restrictions
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:18:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120828171832.GA3661@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9k5zX2-t=Gy25hM7f7-n0kRtUy+qtKqOTQRxOygrLGDA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 05:24:40PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 28 August 2012 17:01, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > We copied HACKING from libvirt but it has some bogus stuff:
> > neither underscore capital, double underscore, or underscore 't' suffixes
> > are reserved in Posix/C: this appears to be based on misreading of the
> > C standard. Using sane prefixes is enough to avoid conflicts.

> > -2.4. Reserved namespaces in C and POSIX
> > -Underscore capital, double underscore, and underscore 't' suffixes should be
> > -avoided.
> 
> I think this is just a missing "prefixes". C99 7.1.3
> reserves underscore capital and double underscore prefixes.

This is taking it out of context - reserved means different
things in different parts of the spec.

As far as I can see, 7.1.3 talks about what is permissible in headers:
naturally when a libc implementation adds stuff in a header it would
want to avoid breaking applications including this header. But
it does not talk about what is permissible in a legal program - to avoid
conflicts, you just need to use variables with reasonable names like
kvmXXX qemuXXX or virtioXXX.

So it does not look like this is a reason to not use __kvm_pv_eoi_disabled.

Chances that a libc header predefines this name are zero.

> POSIX reserves _t if any POSIX header is defined (POSIX.1-2008 section
> 2.2.2, http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/V2_chap02.html)

Same thing really.
So this says posix implementations can add types ending with _t in any
header.  It does not prohibit applications from using such names
in a reasonable manner, and it does not look like this is a reason to
not use qemu_foo_bar_t.


> I would suggest that the section is reworded to:
> 
> # Underscore capital and double underscore prefixes are reserved
> # by the C standard. Underscore 't' suffixes are reserved by POSIX.
> # They should be avoided in QEMU code.
> 
> -- PMM

This might be nice from language purism point of view
but ignores the fact that QEMU already uses lots of these.
Specifically a _t type is even mentioned in HACKING itself.

So the benefit to excluding this in new code is marginal.


-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-28 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-28 16:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] HACKING: remove bogus restrictions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 16:24 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-28 17:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-08-28 17:23     ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-28 17:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:46         ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-28 18:00           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:27     ` malc
2012-08-28 17:13 ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 17:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:25     ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 17:27     ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-28 17:33       ` malc
2012-08-28 17:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:33 ` Andreas Färber

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