From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:28:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120913132804.GO7767@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5051DC20.4090204@redhat.com>
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 07:14:08AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 09/13/2012 04:49 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >> They do if you hibernate your laptop.
> >>
> > AFAIK libvirt migrates vm into a file on hibernate. It is better to move to S3
> > (using qemu-ga) instead and migrate to file only if s3 fails.
>
> On host hibernate, libvirt currently does nothing to the guest. When
> the host resumes, the guests see a large gap in execution.
>
> Libvirt would need a hook into host hibernation, to have enough time to
> tell the guests to go into S3 prior to allowing the host to go into S3.
>
> On host reboot, libvirt currently saves guests to disk using migrate to
> file. The ideal solution would be to first tell the guest to go into S3
> before migrating to file, but the migration to file STILL must occur,
> because the host is about to reboot and S3 is not persistent. S3 is a
> better solution than S4, in that S4 requires the guest to have enough
> memory (and if it doesn't cooperate, data is lost), but with S3, even if
> the guest doesn't cooperate, we can still fall back to migration to file
> with the guest only losing time, but not data.
Trying to hook into host S3/S4 and do magic to the guests is just
asking for trouble. Not only can it arbitrarily delay the host going
into S3/S4, but it is not reliable in general, even for OS which do
support it. Much better off hooking into the resume path on the host
and issuing a QEMU GA call to each running guest to resync their
clocks
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-13 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-12 13:54 [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-12 14:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-12 15:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 15:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 18:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 13:14 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 13:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2012-09-13 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:42 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 18:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-16 10:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-16 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-19 15:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 16:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-19 16:57 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 14:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 15:51 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 18:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-13 20:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-13 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-13 13:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 16:27 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 16:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 17:30 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-12 18:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 19:45 ` Stefan Weil
2012-09-13 10:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-12 20:06 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-12 17:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-12 18:03 Clemens Kolbitsch
2012-09-13 6:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
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