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From: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@cs.technion.ac.il>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>, Nadav Har'el <nyh@il.ibm.com>,
	GaoYi <gaoyi709@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Abel Gordon <abelg@il.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Will the ELI incorporated in theKVM?
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:37:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120919133720.GB22659@snow> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50587258.9090303@siemens.com>

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 03:08:40PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-09-18 14:50, GaoYi wrote:
> > Hi Jan,
> > 
> >    I have followed a previous thread about ELI proposed by Abel Gordon, http://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg73907.html.
> >    I wonder whether this mechanism will be incorporated in KVM someday.
> 
> Likely not. Both Intel and AMD will soon ship hardware that
> obsoletes this invasive and imperfect software solution, see also
> [1].

Hi Jan,

I think this decision may be short-sighted. First, it remains to be
seen how good the upcoming hardware support for interrupt
virtualization will be once it ships. Second, history has been pretty
consistent in that it takes several years for hardware to catch up to
software, and even when it does, software sometimes still wins. (There
are workloads where shadow page tables still outperform EPT/NPT, to
give a concrete example). Although ELI works today, I'd be happy to
hear what parts of it you find "invasive" and "imperfect" (what
software ever is perfect?)

Cheers,
Muli

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-19 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-18 12:50 [Qemu-devel] Will the ELI incorporated in theKVM? GaoYi
2012-09-18 13:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 13:37   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [this message]
2012-09-19 14:10     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 14:20       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 14:43       ` Abel Gordon
2012-09-19 14:46         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-20  5:42           ` GaoYi
2012-09-20  6:58             ` Abel Gordon
2012-09-20  7:14               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-20  7:19                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-20  9:18                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-20  9:22                     ` Gleb Natapov

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