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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Nadav Har'El <NYH@il.ibm.com>, GaoYi <gaoyi709@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Michael D Day <mdday@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@cs.technion.ac.il>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>, Abel Gordon <ABELG@il.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Will the ELI incorporated in theKVM?
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:19:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120920071912.GX20907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <505AC257.3080000@siemens.com>

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 09:14:31AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-09-20 08:58, Abel Gordon wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > GaoYi <gaoyi709@gmail.com> wrote on 20/09/2012 08:42:51 AM:
> > 
> >>    The CPU isolation in Hitachi patches is just to improve the real
> >> time performance of GUEST. The core of it, direct IRQ delivery, is
> >> very similar to that of ELI.
> >>     For the ELI patches,
> >>     (1) Since EOI part of ELI is already supported by the Intel
> >> Sandy Bridge CPUs and requires modifications on GUEST code, it
> >> should not be included in the KVM. Only the ELI delivery part, which
> >> plays a vital role in performance improvement, should be considered.
> > 
> > Giving to the guest direct access to the EOI MSR (if x2APIC is available)
> > is what we call "ELI completion". Note this mechanism is not so simple,
> > there are some cases (which are not part of the critical path) where ELI
> > must trap
> > EOIs. For the APLOS paper evaluation we didn't have CPUs with x2APIC so we
> > simulated the behavior changing the guest code.
> > In any case, as you can see in the paper, the big part of the improvement
> > comes from "ELI delivery". "ELI completion" improvement will be
> > even smaller with the latest KVM EOI optimizations for the memory based
> > LAPIC.
> > 
> >>     (2) It should be provided in the kvm-kmod or qemu-kvm ( not just
> >> for some linux kernel as Hitachi patches do), to make this part
> >> independent of linux kernel version.
> > 
> > Exactly, ELI only modifies the kvm kernel module and qemu-kvm but we should
> > also modify VFIO for newer kvm versions.
> 
> Again: If you think the feature is non-invasive, send patches against
> the kernel and QEMU.
> 
And explain why it is better than what modern HW provides.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-20  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-18 12:50 [Qemu-devel] Will the ELI incorporated in theKVM? GaoYi
2012-09-18 13:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 13:37   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2012-09-19 14:10     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 14:20       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 14:43       ` Abel Gordon
2012-09-19 14:46         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-20  5:42           ` GaoYi
2012-09-20  6:58             ` Abel Gordon
2012-09-20  7:14               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-20  7:19                 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-09-20  9:18                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-20  9:22                     ` Gleb Natapov

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