From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>,
"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org List" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Avik Sil <aviksil@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] Qemu boot device precedence over nvram boot-device setting
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:13:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120927101305.GL23096@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fw63hjb2.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 03:35:53PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:51:36 +0200, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:33:31AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > >
> > > On 27.09.2012, at 11:29, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 14:51 +0530, Avik Sil wrote:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> We would like to get a method to boot from devices provided in -boot
> > > >> arguments in qemu when the 'boot-device' is set in nvram for pseries
> > > >> machine. I mean the boot device specified in -boot should get a
> > > >> precedence over the 'boot-device' specified in nvram.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the same time, when -boot is not provided, i.e., the default boot
> > > >> order "cad" is present, the device specified in nvram 'boot-device'
> > > >> should get precedence if it is set.
> > > >>
> > > >> What should be the elegant way to implement this requirement?
> > > >> Suggestions welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Actually I think it's a more open question. We have essentially two
> > > > things at play here:
> > > >
> > > > - With the new nvram model, the firmware can store a boot device
> > > > reference in it, which is standard OF practice, and in fact the various
> > > > distro installers are going to do just that
> > > >
> > > > - Qemu has its own boot order thingy via -boot, which we loosely
> > > > translate as c = first bootable disk we find (actually first disk we
> > > > find, we should probably make the algorithm a bit smarter), d = first
> > > > cdrom we find, n = network , ... We pass that selection (boot list) down
> > > > to SLOF via a device-tree property.
> > > >
> > > > The question is thus what precedence should we give them. I was
> > > > initially thinking that an explicit qemu boot list should override the
> > > > firmware nvram setting but I'm now not that sure anymore.
> > > >
> > > > The -boot list is at best a "blurry" indication of what type of device
> > > > the user wants ... The firmware setting in nvram is precise.
> > >
> > > IIRC gleb had implemented a specific boot order thing. Gleb, mind to enlighten us? :)
> > >
> > Yes, forget about -boot. It is deprecated :) You should use bootindex
> > (device property) to set boot priority. It constructs OF device path
> > and passes it to firmware.
>
> If the user does not set bootindex, qemu would decide the bootindex?
>
No. Firmware decides. QEMU just tells to firmware that it does not have
bootindex.
> If it does, there will be a default bootindex. Then the problem still
> remains, qemu decided the boot-order, in which case we would want to
> pick the nvram based setting. This is again difficult to distinguish.
>
> > There is nothing "blurry" about OF device
> > path. The problem is that it works reasonably well with legacy BIOS
> > since it is enough to specify device to boot from, but with EFI (OF is
> > the same I guess) it is not enough to point to a device to boot from,
> > but you also need to specify a file you want to boot and this is where
> > bootindex approach fails.
>
> By file I suppose you mean OF device-path.
>
No. By file I mean a file on dedicated EFI FAT partition that EFI loads
during boot. I do not know if OF has something similar.
> > >
> > > I think the command line should override anything user specified. So basically:
> > >
> > > * user defined -boot option (or bootindex magic from Gleb)
> > > * nvram
> > > * fallback to default
> > >
>
> Regards
> Nikunj
--
Gleb.
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[not found] ` <1348738150.24701.21.camel@pasglop>
2012-09-27 9:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] Qemu boot device precedence over nvram boot-device setting Alexander Graf
2012-09-27 9:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-27 9:39 ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-27 9:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:05 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-09-27 10:13 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-09-27 10:34 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-09-27 10:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-27 10:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-28 6:12 ` Jordan Justen
2012-10-04 10:55 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 11:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 11:29 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 11:30 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-04 12:18 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-04 12:35 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 12:37 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-04 12:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-05 4:45 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-04 11:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 11:59 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-05 0:34 ` David Gibson
2012-10-05 0:43 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05 0:48 ` David Gibson
2012-10-05 9:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-05 10:32 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05 5:30 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-05 5:44 ` Avik Sil
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