From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: Avik Sil <aviksil@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org List" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] Qemu boot device precedence over nvram boot-device setting
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:35:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120927103500.GM23096@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1348741303.24701.29.camel@pasglop>
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:21:43PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 11:51 +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>
> > Yes, forget about -boot. It is deprecated :) You should use bootindex
> > (device property) to set boot priority. It constructs OF device path
> > and passes it to firmware. There is nothing "blurry" about OF device
> > path.
>
> Of course it is ;-) They are perfectly precise down to the device for
> which qemu generates the device-tree ... and from there it requires the
> firmware and qemu to both agree on how they are constructed, and it
> becomes totally unpredictable once things like f-code drivers coming
> from adapter ROMs enter the picture.
>
If QEMU generates OF device path that can't be used by firmware uniquely
identify the device this is QEMU bug. You are correct about ROMs though.
At least on a PC single ROM can register multiple boot vectors and since
QEMU knows nothing about them it can't prioritize between them. It's sad
if OF has similar problem.
> In fact, we can probably get them right down the the PCI device for PCI
> (for which we don't currently construct the device nodes in qemu, but we
> can 'guess'). And we can probably get the right unit address for vscsi,
> virtio-scsi, etc... but that's about it.
What more do you need?
>
> > The problem is that it works reasonably well with legacy BIOS
> > since it is enough to specify device to boot from, but with EFI (OF is
> > the same I guess) it is not enough to point to a device to boot from,
> > but you also need to specify a file you want to boot and this is where
> > bootindex approach fails. If EFI would specify default file to boot from
> > firmware could have used it, but EFI specifies it only for removable media
> > (what media is not removable this days, especially with virtualization?).
> > We can add qemu parameter to specify file to boot, but how users should
> > know the name of the file?
>
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
>
--
Gleb.
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <50641A82.4030708@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <1348738150.24701.21.camel@pasglop>
2012-09-27 9:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] Qemu boot device precedence over nvram boot-device setting Alexander Graf
2012-09-27 9:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-27 9:39 ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-27 9:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:05 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-09-27 10:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:34 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-09-27 10:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-27 10:35 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-09-28 6:12 ` Jordan Justen
2012-10-04 10:55 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 11:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 11:29 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 11:30 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-04 12:18 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-04 12:35 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-04 12:37 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-04 12:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-05 4:45 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-04 11:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 11:59 ` Avik Sil
2012-10-05 0:34 ` David Gibson
2012-10-05 0:43 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05 0:48 ` David Gibson
2012-10-05 9:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-05 10:32 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05 5:30 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-05 5:44 ` Avik Sil
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