From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIj9k-0002ho-N9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:47:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIj9f-0007vz-BF for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:47:44 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:58504) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIj9f-0007vd-3N for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:47:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:47:30 +0100 From: "Daniel P. Berrange" Message-ID: <20121001164730.GC15554@redhat.com> References: <20120930191146.GA20012@amt.cnet> <50694EC1.8060006@siemens.com> <20121001093102.GA14797@amt.cnet> <50696E9E.7030302@siemens.com> <87zk468h3y.fsf@codemonkey.ws> <50699CDC.1010604@redhat.com> <87wqzap9ui.fsf@codemonkey.ws> <5069A9DF.4040606@siemens.com> <5069C814.7010201@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5069C814.7010201@suse.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it Reply-To: "Daniel P. Berrange" List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A4rber?= Cc: kvm , Scott Moser , Jan Kiszka , Marcelo Tosatti , Michael Tokarev , qemu-devel , Bruce Rogers , Avi Kivity , Anthony Liguori , Cole Robinson , Paolo Bonzini On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 06:43:00PM +0200, Andreas F=C3=A4rber wrote: > Hello Jan, >=20 > Am 01.10.2012 16:34, schrieb Jan Kiszka: > > If we built a target for a host that supports KVM in principle, set t= he > > default accelerator to KVM as well. This also means the start of QEMU > > will fail to start if KVM support turns out to be unavailable at > > runtime. >=20 > From a distro point of view this of course means that we will build > against KVM and that the new KVM default will start to fail for users o= n > very old hardware. Can't we do a runtime check to select the default? NB, this is *not* only about old hardware. There are plenty of users who use QEMU inside VMs. One very common usage I know of is image building tools which are run inside Amazon VMs, using libguestfs & QEMU. IMHO, default to KVM, fallback to TCG is the most friendly default behaviour. Daniel --=20 |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange= / :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.or= g :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr= / :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vn= c :|