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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, akong@redhat.com,
	stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, gleb@redhat.com,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, Don@cloudswitch.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	blauwirbel@gmail.com, avi@redhat.com,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	hpa@linux.intel.com, lersek@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/23] target-i386: convert cpuid features into properties
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:50:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121004155034.525b4b9b@nial.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121004133329.GX15784@otherpad.lan.raisama.net>

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:33:30 -0300
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 03:25:59PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:10:27 -0300
> > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 03:01:19PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:43:41 -0300
> > > > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 08:53:22AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:54:34 -0300
> > > > > > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 06:24:11PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:20:46 +0200
> > > > > > > > Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Il 03/10/2012 17:03, Eduardo Habkost ha scritto:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 05:38:45PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> (Now replying on the right thread, to keep the
> > > > > > > > > >> discussion in the right place. I don't know how I ended
> > > > > > > > > >> up replying to a pre-historic version of the patch,
> > > > > > > > > >> sorry.)
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 05:36:59PM +0200, Igor Mammedov
> > > > > > > > > >> wrote: [...]
> > > > > > > > > >>> @@ -1938,6 +2043,12 @@ static void x86_cpu_initfn(Object
> > > > > > > > > >>> *obj) object_property_add(obj, "tsc-frequency", "int",
> > > > > > > > > >>>                          x86_cpuid_get_tsc_freq,
> > > > > > > > > >>>                          x86_cpuid_set_tsc_freq, NULL,
> > > > > > > > > >>> NULL, NULL);
> > > > > > > > > >>> +    x86_register_cpuid_properties(obj, feature_name);
> > > > > > > > > >>> +    x86_register_cpuid_properties(obj,
> > > > > > > > > >>> ext_feature_name);
> > > > > > > > > >>> +    x86_register_cpuid_properties(obj,
> > > > > > > > > >>> ext2_feature_name);
> > > > > > > > > >>> +    x86_register_cpuid_properties(obj,
> > > > > > > > > >>> ext3_feature_name);
> > > > > > > > > >>> +    x86_register_cpuid_properties(obj,
> > > > > > > > > >>> kvm_feature_name);
> > > > > > > > > >>> +    x86_register_cpuid_properties(obj,
> > > > > > > > > >>> svm_feature_name);
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Stupid question about qdev:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> - qdev_prop_set_globals() is called from device_initfn()
> > > > > > > > > >> - device_initfn() is called before the child class
> > > > > > > > > >> instance_init() function (x86_cpu_initfn())
> > > > > > > > > >> - So, qdev_prop_set_globals() gets called before the CPU
> > > > > > > > > >> class properties are registered.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> So this would defeat the whole point of all the work
> > > > > > > > > >> we're doing, that is to allow compatibility bits to be
> > > > > > > > > >> set as machine-type global properties. But I don't know
> > > > > > > > > >> what's the right solution here.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Should the qdev_prop_set_globals() call be moved to
> > > > > > > > > >> qdev_init() instead? Should the CPU properties be
> > > > > > > > > >> registered somewhere else?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Properties should be registered (for all objects, not just
> > > > > > > > > CPUs) in the instance_init function.  This is device_initfn.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I would add an instance_postinit function that is called at
> > > > > > > > > the end of object_initialize_with_type, that is after
> > > > > > > > > instance_init, and in the opposite order (i.e. from the
> > > > > > > > > leaf to the root).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You've meant something like that?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's almost exactly the same code I wrote here. :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The only difference is that I added post_init to the struct
> > > > > > > Object documentation comments, and added a unit test. The unit
> > > > > > > test required the qdev-core/qdev split, so we could compile it
> > > > > > > without bringing too many dependencies. I will submit it soon.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > After irc discussion, Anthony suggested to use static properties
> > > > > > instead of dynamic ones that we use now. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But  qdev_prop_set_globals() in device_initfn() is still causes
> > > > > > problems even with static properties.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For x86 CPU classes we were going dynamically generate CPU
> > > > > > classes and store pointer to appropriate cpudef from
> > > > > > builtin_x86_defs in class field for each CPU class and then init
> > > > > > default feature words values from this field int x86_cpu_initfn().
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However with qdev_prop_set_globals() in device_initfn() that is
> > > > > > called before x86_cpu_initfn() it won't work because defaults in
> > > > > > x86_cpu_initfn() will overwrite whatever was set by
> > > > > > qdev_prop_set_globals().
> > > > > 
> > > > > We can set the default values on class_init, instead. The class_init
> > > > > function for each CPU model can get the x86_def_t struct as the data
> > > > > pointer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I still think that the interface to build the DeviceClass.props
> > > > > array on class_init is really painful to use, but it's still doable.
> > > > 
> > > > You mean dynamic building of DeviceClass.props arrays for each CPU
> > > > sub-class?
> > > 
> > > That's the only solution I see if we want to make all the CPU properties
> > > static, yes.
> > 
> > Well I could generate compile time arrays for every built-in cpu model
> > and we can remove then x86_def_t struct & builtins altogether.
> > Only 'host' would be left for dynamic generation then.
> 
> You mean duplicating the property list in the code? Then the
> feature-name -> CPUID-bit mapping information would be duplicated on all
> those arrays, and adding support to a new CPU feature would require
> adding entries to all the arrays.
Not to all arrays, but only to ones which cpumodel-s support specific feature.

Here is possible ups&downs this:
 + full introspection, including default cpu features values.
 -/+ it would be possible to represent cpumodel more faithfully, i.e. include
   only features that specific cpu supports. (so no AVX=on in 486 model), not
   sure if it is plus but it would more like real hw.
 - a lot of lines of code , but it could be dealt with extra macros, so
   resulting arrays could look like built-in now (if we add feature there we
   anyway should replicate it other relevant builtins).
 + maybe generating only "host"'s DeviceClass.props could be simplier.

And then for builtin models I could make a series static CPU classes that
would use this arrays.
 

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > I'm still not convinced we really need to do that, though. Maybe we can
> > > make static only the ones we really need to be able to implement
> > > machine-type-compatibility global properties?
> > > 
> > > Machine-type compatibility global properties were the initial reason for
> > > the static-properties requirement. We don't really need to allow _all_
> > > CPU features to be controlled by global properties, only the ones we
> > > need for machine-type compatibility.
> > > 
> > 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-04 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-02 15:36 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/23 v4] target-i386: convert CPU features into properties Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/23] target-i386: return Error from cpu_x86_find_by_name() Igor Mammedov
2012-10-10 14:05   ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-10 14:38     ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-10 16:37       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/23] target-i386: cpu_x86_register(): report error from property setter Igor Mammedov
2012-10-10 14:07   ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/23] target-i386: if x86_cpu_realize() failed report error and do cleanup Igor Mammedov
2012-10-10 14:09   ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/23] target-i386: filter out not TCG features if running without kvm at realize time Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/23] target-i386: move out CPU features initialization in separate func Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/23] target-i386: xlevel should be more than 0x80000000, move fixup into setter Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/23] target-i386: convert cpuid features into properties Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 20:38   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-03 15:03     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-03 15:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 16:24         ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-03 16:54           ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-04  6:53             ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-04  7:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-04 12:43               ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-04 12:57                 ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-04 13:06                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-04 13:10                   ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-04 13:19                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-04 13:01                 ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-04 13:10                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-04 13:25                     ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-04 13:33                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-04 13:50                         ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2012-10-04 14:20                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/23] target-i386: add stubs for hyperv_(vapic_recommended|relaxed_timing_enabled|get_spinlock_retries)() Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/23] target-i386: convert 'hv_spinlocks' feature into property Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/23] target-i386: convert 'hv_relaxed' " Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/23] target-i386: convert 'hv_vapic' " Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/23] target-i386: convert 'check' and 'enforce' features into properties Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/23] add visitor for parsing hz[KMG] input string Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/23] target-i386: use visit_type_hz to parse tsc_freq property value Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/23] target-i386: introduce vendor-override property Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/23] target-i386: use define for cpuid vendor string size Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/23] target-i386: postpone cpuid_level update to realize time Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/23] target-i386: replace uint32_t vendor fields by vendor string in x86_def_t Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/23] target-i386: parse cpu_model string into set of stringified properties Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/23] target-i386: use properties to set/unset user specified features on CPU Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 16:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-10-02 16:12     ` Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/23] target-i386: move init of "hypervisor" feature into CPU initializer from cpudef Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/23] target-i386: move default init of cpuid_kvm_features bitmap " Igor Mammedov
2012-10-02 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/23] target-i386: cleanup cpu_x86_find_by_name(), only fill x86_def_t in it Igor Mammedov

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