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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Orit Wasserman <owasserm@redhat.com>
Cc: aik@ozlabs.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Testing migration under stress
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:14:45 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121106011445.GB27695@truffula.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5097AF51.9010703@redhat.com>

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 02:21:37PM +0200, Orit Wasserman wrote:
> On 11/05/2012 02:30 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 02:12:25PM +0200, Orit Wasserman wrote:
> >> On 11/02/2012 05:10 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> >>> Asking for some advice on the list.
> >>>
> >>> I have prorotype savevm and migration support ready for the pseries
> >>> machine.  They seem to work under simple circumstances (idle guest).
> >>> To test them more extensively I've been attempting to perform live
> >>> migrations (just over tcp->localhost) which the guest is active with
> >>> something.  In particular I've tried while using octave to do matrix
> >>> multiply (so exercising the FP unit) and my colleague Alexey has tried
> >>> during some video encoding.
> > 
> >> As you are doing local migration one option is to setting the speed
> >> higher than line speed , as we don't actually send the data, another
> >> is to set high downtime.
> > 
> > I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that.  But I do have suspicions
> > based on this and other factors that the default bandwidth it is
> > limiting to is horribly, horribly low.
> > 
> >>> However, in each of these cases, we've found that the migration only
> >>> completes and the source instance only stops after the intensive
> >>> workload has (just) completed.  What I surmise is happening is that
> >>> the workload is touching memory pages fast enough that the ram
> >>> migration code is never getting below the threshold to complete the
> >>> migration until the guest is idle again.
> >>>
> >> The workload you chose is really bad for live migration, as all the
> >> guest does is dirtying his memory.
> > 
> > Well, I realised that was true of the matrix multiply.  For video
> > encode though, the output data should be much, much smaller than the
> > input, so I wouldn't expect it to be dirtying memory that fast.
> > 
> >> I recommend looking for workload
> >> that does some networking or disk IO.  Vinod succeeded running
> >> SwingBench and SLOB benchmarks that converged ok, I don't know if
> >> they run on pseries, but similar workload should be ok(small
> >> database/warehouse).  We found out that SpecJbb on the other hand is
> >> hard to converge.  Web workload or video streaming also do the
> >> trick.
> > 
> > Hrm.  As something really simple and stupid, I did try migrationg an
> > ls -lR /, but even that didn't converge :/.
> That is strange, it should converge even with the defaults,
> Any special about your storage setup ?

I didn't think so.  Do you mean host or guest storage setup?

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-06  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-02  3:10 [Qemu-devel] Testing migration under stress David Gibson
2012-11-02 12:12 ` Orit Wasserman
2012-11-05  0:30   ` David Gibson
2012-11-05 12:21     ` Orit Wasserman
2012-11-06  1:14       ` David Gibson [this message]
2012-11-06  5:22   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2012-11-06  6:55     ` David Gibson
2012-11-06  7:55       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2012-11-06 10:54     ` Orit Wasserman
2012-11-02 13:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-02 13:07 ` Juan Quintela
2012-11-05  0:31   ` David Gibson

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