From: mdroth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>
Cc: "aliguori@us.ibm.com" <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
"agl@us.ibm.com" <agl@us.ibm.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] re-enable balloon stats
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:38:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121211173808.GH30686@vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24E144B8C0207547AD09C467A8259F755787E011@lisa.maurer-it.com>
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 03:14:02PM +0000, Dietmar Maurer wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure I like this for two reasons. First, there will be cases
> > > > where the user doesn't want this to be enabled. Second, we'll be
> > > > forcing an interval on users.
> > >
> > > So when should we set the stats-polling-interval? I first thought I
> > > simply set that at VM start, but that triggers an error:
> > >
> > > "guest doesn't support balloon stats"
> > >
> > > because the balloon driver is not loaded.
> >
> > Yes, it's required to have the balloon driver loaded. The stats are reported by
> > it.
>
> That does not really answers my question. So you think the management
> framework should start the VM, and then wait until the balloon driver is
> loaded? That sound very clumsy to me.
>
> I mean, I just want to set the polling interval. Why does that need the balloon drive loaded
> inside the guest (polling is done by the host)?
I agree. Should lack of a balloon module disable the timer
completely, or just silently fail? Management can always reference
stats-last-update to check that stats are being reported properly. -1 would
mean driver was never loaded, longer update intervals might mean guest
was rebooted/suspended/etc, but in both cases it makes sense that the
timer still try to fetch stats, and the determination of what stats are
valid/invalid be left to management.
Alternatively, we can hook into the feature negotiation path and
defer the actual timer start until the required feature is negotiated,
and disable it (temporarilly or permanently based on guest behavior)
somewhere in the reset path). I'm not sure this will keep it from
running during hibernate/sleep...maybe hook into runstate changes?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-11 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-10 19:36 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] re-enable balloon stats Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-10 19:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] virtio-balloon: drop old stats code Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-10 19:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] virtio-balloon: re-enable balloon stats Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-10 19:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] docs: document virtio-balloon stats Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 5:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] re-enable balloon stats Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-11 11:45 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 12:05 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-11 12:10 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 12:29 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-11 12:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 15:14 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-11 17:38 ` mdroth [this message]
2012-12-11 18:28 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 18:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 19:07 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-11 19:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 19:39 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-11 19:41 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-12 13:17 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-12 13:29 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-12 13:36 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-12 13:40 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-12 13:45 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-13 12:41 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-11 22:26 ` mdroth
2012-12-12 5:56 ` Dietmar Maurer
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20121211173808.GH30686@vm \
--to=mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=agl@us.ibm.com \
--cc=aliguori@us.ibm.com \
--cc=dietmar@proxmox.com \
--cc=lcapitulino@redhat.com \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).