Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v6 0/6] Virtio refactoring.

["Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 02:12:23PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:30:20PM +0100, KONRAD Frédéric wrote:
> >> On 18/12/2012 12:01, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> >On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33:37AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> >>On 17 December 2012 15:45, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >>>Is the point to allow virtio-mmio?  Why can't virtio-mmio be just
> >> >>>another bus, like a pci bus, and another binding, like the virtio-pci
> >> >>>binding?
> >> >>(a) the current code is really not very nice because it's not
> >> >>actually a proper set of QOM/qdev devices
> >> >>(b) unlike PCI, you can't create sysbus devices on the
> >> >>command line, because they don't correspond to a user
> >> >>pluggable bit of hardware. We don't want users to have to know
> >> >>an address and IRQ number for each virtio-mmio device (especially
> >> >>since these are board specific); instead the board can create
> >> >>and wire up transport devices wherever is suitable, and the
> >> >>user just creates the backend (which is plugged into the virtio bus).
> >> >>
> >> >>-- PMM
> >> >This is what I am saying: create your own bus and put
> >> >your devices there. Allocate resources when you init
> >> >a device.
> >> >
> >> >Instead you seem to want to expose a virtio device as two devices to
> >> >user - if true this is not reasonable.
> >> >
> >> The modifications will be transparent to the user, as we will keep
> >> virtio-x-pci devices.
> >
> > So there are three ways to add virtio pci devices now.
> > Legacy -device virtio-net-pci, legacy legacy -net nic.model=virtio
> > and the new one with two devices.
> > If yes it's not transparent, it's user visible.
> > Or did I misunderstand?
> >
> > Look we can have a virtio network device on a PCI bus.
> > A very similar device can be created on XXX bus, and
> > we can and do share a lot of code.
> > This makes it two devices? Why not 4?
> > One for TX one for RX one for control one for PCI.
> > I hope I'm not giving anyone ideas ...
> 
> Devices != things users need to worry about.
> 
> The documented way to create network devices is completely different
> than any possible syntax you can conjure up with -device.
> 
> Really, -device is not something users should have to deal with--ever.
> It's a low level API, not a UI.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori

Interesting.
Let's assume I want to put a device behind a pci bridge
(for example I want more than 32 of these).
It's impossible without -device, isn't it?

> >
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> > MST