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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] qdev: make reset semantics more clear and consistent, reset qbuses under virtio devices
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:01:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130110150118.GB30731@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9shw2ek.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 08:14:43AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> 
> > On 10 January 2013 12:12, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> Il 10/01/2013 12:59, Peter Maydell ha scritto:
> >>>>>>> >>> > It's possible.  I'll move the SCSI bus away from qdev reset.
> >>>>>>> >>> > Anthony/Michael, can you help doing the same with PCIDevice?  And
> >>>>>>> >>> > perhaps Peter and Andreas with sysbus?
> >>>>> >> What does it even mean to reset a sysbus? Do we do it anywhere?
> >>>>> >> (it looks like vl.c does, just as a shortcut so memory mapped devices
> >>>>> >> get their reset hooks called?)
> >>> So how should it work instead? I kind of feel like all qdev devices should
> >>> get their reset hook called on machine reset, regardless of bus [since it's
> >>> modelling power cycling the whole system], but would that break
> >>> something?
> >>
> >> It's just an implementation detail.  Right now we have a common
> >> callback.  The idea is to give each bus its own callback.  In the case
> >> of sysbus it would just call a method; for PCI it would reset some
> >> configuration and then call a method; for SCSI there is no need to call
> >> a method at all; and so on.
> >
> > But machine reset shouldn't call bus specific PCI or SCSI reset
> > methods -- we've just effectively yanked the power to the VM
> > so everything should just reset as if it was freshly constructed.
> >
> > A bus-specific reset method would be for buses where the bus
> > itself has some sort of guest-triggerable reset (by prodding the
> > chipset, for instance).
> 
> The challenge is how we go from what we have to what we want.
> 
> Right now we have DeviceState::reset.  This is used both as a soft and
> hard reset.
> 
> What I would propose is that we:
> 
>   s/DeviceState::reset/DeviceState::hard_reset/g
> 
> Then introduce PCIDevice::soft_reset.  We can convert the PCI layer to
> call soft_reset() instead of hard_reset.
> 
> Over time, it would be great if we could find a way to implement
> hard_reset in terms of device destruction/recreation but we're not there
> yet.
> 
> I think the reset/hard_reset rename can be done via sed mostly.
> 
> Would this solve the bug that you're trying to fix Michael/Paolo?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori

I don't think we need a rename to fix a specific bug.
The bugs Paolo found can be fixed in virtio and virtio-scsi.

> 
> >> In addition, navigating the qdev tree should be explicit in the methods.
> >>  It will not happen anymore via the "magic" qdev_reset_all.
> >
> > *Something* has to say "call reset for every qdev object in the
> > system", surely?
> >
> > -- PMM

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-10 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-17 16:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] qdev: make reset semantics more clear and consistent, reset qbuses under virtio devices Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] qdev: do not reset a device until the parent has been initialized Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-17 16:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-17 17:06       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 21:57   ` Andreas Färber
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] intel-hda: do not reset codecs from intel_hda_reset Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] pci: clean up resetting of IRQs Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] virtio-pci: reset device before PCI layer Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] virtio-s390: add a reset function to virtio-s390 devices Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] qdev: add qbus_reset_all Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] pci: do not export pci_bus_reset Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] lsi: use qbus_reset_all to reset SCSI bus Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] qdev: allow both pre- and post-order vists in qdev walking functions Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] qdev: switch reset to post-order Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] qdev: remove device_reset Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] qdev: document reset semantics Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] virtio-pci: reset all qbuses too when writing to the status field Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-17 16:54     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 17:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-17 17:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] virtio-s390: " Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 16:29   ` Alexander Graf
2012-12-17 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] virtio-serial: do not perform bus reset by hand Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-17 21:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] qdev: make reset semantics more clear and consistent, reset qbuses under virtio devices Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18  7:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18  8:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-12-18  9:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-18 11:40         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-07 17:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-07 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 19:57   ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-07 20:20     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-07 20:28       ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-07 20:51         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-09  9:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-09 10:53       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 11:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-09 11:12           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 12:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-09 17:46               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 20:40                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-09 21:22                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 21:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-10  8:31                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 11:32                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-10 11:46     ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-10 11:47       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 11:59         ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-10 12:12           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 12:31             ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-10 12:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 13:01                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-10 13:32                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 14:14               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-10 14:38                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 15:01                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-01-08 13:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-03  2:18 Anthony Liguori
2013-01-02 18:23 ` Anthony Liguori

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