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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: 马磊 <aware.why@gmail.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	gaowanlong@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] reading files from qcow2-formated image disk for windows system
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:26:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130111092657.GA14394@stefanha-thinkpad.muc.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+ePHTA0AQPP4YgBQz9hjUNY3oemsjS9ZdtS9211Y2VJT-J5dA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 03:27:52PM +0800, 马磊 wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Wanlong Gao <gaowanlong@cn.fujitsu.com>wrote:
> 
> > On 01/11/2013 11:39 AM, 马磊 wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com<mailto:
> > berrange@redhat.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:37:54PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > >     > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM, 马磊 <aware.why@gmail.com <mailto:
> > aware.why@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >>> Hi,
> > >     > >>>     The final effect is as follows:
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>> [malei@xentest-4-1 Fri Dec 28 ~/honeypot/xen/xen-4.1.2]$
> > qemu-img-xen cat
> > >     > >>> -f /1/boot.ini ~/vm-check.img
> > >     > >>> [boot loader]
> > >     > >>> timeout=30
> > >     > >>> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
> > >     > >>> [operating systems]
> > >     > >>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows
> > XP
> > >     > >>> Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>> [malei@xentest-4-1 Fri Dec 28 ~/honeypot/xen/xen-4.1.2]$
> > qemu-img-xen ls
> > >     > >>> -l -d /1/ ~/vm-check.img
> > >     > >>> 【name                 size(bytes) dir?      date
> > >     > >>> create-time】
> > >     > >>> AUTOEXEC.BAT 0                file 2010-12-22        17:30:37
> > >     > >>> boot.ini               211                file 2010-12-23
> >    01:24:41
> > >     > >>> bootfont.bin  322730                file 2004-11-23
> >  20:00:00
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>> As you see above, the patch add two sub-commands for
> > qemu-img-xen:cat and
> > >     > >>> ls.
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>> For details in the patch, please check the attachment.
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >>>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Does anyone prefer this feature?!
> > >     >
> > >     > Nice feature, but this approach would just clutter QEMU and give
> > only
> > >     > readonly FAT or NTFS support. I think a more generally useful
> > approach
> > >     > would be to use NBD or iSCSI to export the block device data from
> > the
> > >     > image file (qemu-nbd already exists) and then make a tool that uses
> > >     > some combination of NBD/iSCSI client, all GRUB file systems and
> > FUSE
> > >     > or other user space methods to access the contents of the
> > filesystem.
> > >     > Probably also UML with a simple guest agent could provide
> > read/write
> > >     > access to any file system that Linux supports.
> > >
> > >     The latter is what libguestfs already provides. It boots a Linux
> > kernel
> > >     and mini initrd containing a guest agent, to provide APIs to do
> > arbitrary
> > >     manipulation of guest OS images.
> > >
> > >     The reason libguestfs used a linux guest was precisely to avoid
> > having
> > >     to re-implement drivers for every filesystem in existance like this
> > >     patch is trying todo.
> > >
> > >     I don't think QEMU wants to be in the business of maintaining
> > filesystem
> > >     drivers, so I'd reject this proposed patch.
> > >
> > >     Regards,
> > >     Daniel
> > >     --
> > >     |: http://berrange.com      -o-
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :|
> > >     |: http://libvirt.org              -o-
> > http://virt-manager.org :|
> > >     |: http://autobuild.org       -o-
> > http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
> > >     |: http://entangle-photo.org       -o-
> > http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :|
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This feature could be configured to be optional in make file
> > configuration according to individual preference.
> > > _In addition, the fat32 and ntfs filesystem driver will not change for a
> > long time so it needs no much maintainence  once implemented._
> >
> > As Daniel and Stefan said, you can try to use libguestfs [libguestfs.org]
> > and qemu-nbd.
> > In libguestfs, we provide virt-cat, virt-ls, etc. And support all the disk
> > type which QEMU supported.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wanlong Gao
> >
> >
> *I used libguest, it's startup takes too long to meet specific requirements
> under some time-sensitive circumstance. *

Then use qemu-nbd instead.  It's fast and you can use all the file
systems supported by your host (ext4, xfs, fat, ntfs, etc), as well as
LVM or encrypted volumes.

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-11  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-09  7:31 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] reading files from qcow2-formated image disk for windows system 马磊
2013-01-09 21:37 ` Blue Swirl
     [not found]   ` <CA+ePHTC0npDVESeqg4FMEJT68rCvujSufG080mhJ-di3wBBdUQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-01-10  8:04     ` 马磊
2013-01-10  8:33       ` 陳韋任 (Wei-Ren Chen)
2013-01-10  8:44         ` 马磊
2013-01-10  8:50           ` 陳韋任 (Wei-Ren Chen)
2013-01-10  8:57             ` 马磊
2013-01-10  8:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]         ` <CA+ePHTBOKSizctD+MJTaKfa8Ufag=SnGMcWiibVM9E7r7c0UuA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-01-10  8:50           ` 马磊
2013-01-10 12:20   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-01-11  3:39     ` 马磊
2013-01-11  6:28       ` Wanlong Gao
2013-01-11  7:27         ` 马磊
2013-01-11  9:26           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2013-01-12 12:00           ` Blue Swirl
2013-01-14  2:04             ` Wanlong Gao
2013-01-14  9:13             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-17 20:22               ` Blue Swirl
2013-01-18 11:54                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-10 12:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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