From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: aquini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
anton.vorontsov@linaro.org, agl@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/3] virtio-balloon: add auto-ballooning support
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:58:30 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130114095830.3c204f54@doriath.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130111203232.GA11436@amit.redhat.com>
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 02:02:32 +0530
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Luiz,
>
> On (Tue) 18 Dec 2012 [18:16:55], Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > The auto-ballooning feature automatically performs balloon inflate
> > or deflate based on host and guest memory pressure. This can help to
> > avoid swapping or worse in both, host and guest.
> >
> > Auto-ballooning has a host and a guest part. The host performs
> > automatic inflate by requesting the guest to inflate its balloon
> > when the host is facing memory pressure. The guest performs
> > automatic deflate when it's facing memory pressure itself. It's
> > expected that auto-inflate and auto-deflate will balance each
> > other over time.
>
> What does this last line mean?
When qemu does auto-inflate, the guest memory will be reduced. Then it's
expected that something will increase it again. That something is
auto-deflate.
However, if we deflate too much, than the host may face memory pressure,
and then auto-inflate will take place again.
It's expected that that sequence of auto-inflate and auto-deflate will
reach a balance in some point in time.
> > This commit implements the host side of auto-ballooning.
> >
> > To be notified of host memory pressure, this commit makes use of this
> > kernel API proposal being discussed upstream:
> >
> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=135513372205134&w=2
>
> We should wait till these patches are upstream.
Right.
> Also, an error
> message better than "can't open file ..." to indicate a newer kernel
> is needed for this feature?
Seems a good idea.
> > Three new properties are added to the virtio-balloon device to activate
> > auto-ballooning:
> >
> > o auto-balloon-mempressure-path: this is the path for the kernel's
> > mempressure cgroup notification dir, which must be already mounted
> > (see link above for details on this)
> >
> > o auto-balloon-level: the memory pressure level to trigger auto-balloon.
> > Valid values are:
> >
> > - low: the kernel is reclaiming memory for new allocations
> > - medium: some swapping activity has already started
> > - oom: the kernel will start playing russian roulette real soon
> >
> > o auto-balloon-granularity: percentage of current guest memory by which
> > the balloon should be inflated. For example, a value of 1 corresponds
> > to 1% which means that a guest with 1G of memory will get its balloon
> > inflated to 10485K.
>
> This looks good.
Actually, for the next version I'll the user space shrinker API.
> How about emitting a QMP message to notify
> management of auto-ballooning?
I could think about that if they are interested.
> > To test this, you need a kernel with the mempressure API patch applied and
> > the guest side of auto-ballooning.
> >
> > Then the feature can be enabled like:
> >
> > qemu [...] \
> > -balloon virtio,auto-balloon-mempressure-path=/sys/fs/cgroup/mempressure/,auto-balloon-level=low,auto-balloon-granularity=1
> >
> > FIXMEs:
> >
> > o rate-limit the event? Can receive several in a row
>
> For this, I'm thinking the highest severity level should be picked to
> act upon: e.g. if the following events are received in succession:
>
> medium
> oom
> low
>
> Then 'oom' is the highest level, and that should be acted upon
> (i.e. we shouldn't deflate the balloon on getting the 'low'
> notification above). The guest can always deflate the balloon when it
> needs RAM.
>
> Repeated 'low' notifications can be ignored, if one has been acted
> upon already.
Makes sense. Although, as I said above I'll try the user-space shrinker API
for the next version.
> o add auto-balloon-maximum to limit the inflate?
>
> Yes, makes sense to add this.
>
> > o this shouldn't override balloon changes done by the user manually
>
> Can you think of examples here? If the user (host admin) has
> ballooned an 8G guest down to 4G, auto-balloon will only further
> shrink down the guest RAM, so there's no real 'overriding' happening
> that I can think of. Of course, a guest can expand itself to, say,
> 5G, but that should be allowed as the guest might be under pressure.
Yes, that's exactly my point above. I mean, taking your example, if
the user has ballooned an 8G down to 4G, should auto-balloon be allowed
to balloon to 5G or even back to 8G?
> Even in such a situation, the host has control by limiting the guest
> using cgroups.
>
> > Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > hw/virtio-balloon.c | 156 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > hw/virtio-balloon.h | 4 ++
> > hw/virtio-pci.c | 5 ++
> > 3 files changed, 165 insertions(+)
>
> Patch looks fine.
>
> Amit
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-14 21:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-18 20:16 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/3] auto-ballooning prototype (host part) Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-18 20:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/3] virtio-balloon: add guest_get_actual_ram() Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-18 20:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/3] virtio-balloon: add virtio_balloon_conf skeleton Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-18 20:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/3] virtio-balloon: add auto-ballooning support Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-18 22:53 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-12-19 11:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-12-20 5:24 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-12-22 21:45 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-01-11 20:32 ` Amit Shah
2013-01-14 11:58 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
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