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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: sw@weilnetz.de, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	Peter Lieven <pl@dlhnet.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] block: only force IO completion in .bdrv_truncate if we are shrinking
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:50:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130307085038.GB2536@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5137A964.5020803@redhat.com>

Am 06.03.2013 um 21:39 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> Il 06/03/2013 20:03, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
> > Am 06.03.2013 19:48, schrieb Jeff Cody:
> >> On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 07:31:51PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>> Il 06/03/2013 19:14, Jeff Cody ha scritto:
> >>>> QCOW breaks with it using a normal raw posix file as a device.  As a
> >>>> test: qemu-img create -f qcow test.qcow 5G.  Now run qemu with that
> >>>> drive mounted, and try to partition and format it.  QEMU now asserts.
> >>>>
> >>>> The nicety of being able to using truncate during a write call,
> >>>> especially for VHDX (which can have relatively large block/cluster
> >>>> sizes), so to grow the file sparsely in a dynamically allocated file.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps we need two APIs, "truncate" and "revalidate".
> >>>
> >>> Truncate should be a no-op if (!bs->growable).
> >>>
> >>> Revalidate could be called by the block_resize monitor command with no
> >>> size specified.
> >>>
> >>> Paolo
> >>
> >> I think that is a good solution.  Is it better to have "truncate" and
> >> "revalidate", or "truncate" and "grow", with grow being a subset of
> >> truncate, with fewer restrictions?  There may still be operations
> >> where it is OK to grow a file, but not OK to shrink it.

What semantics would the both operations have? Is truncate the same as
it used to be? I don't really understand what "revalidate" would do, it
sounds like a read-only operation from its name?

> > Or as a first step:
> > 
> > a) Call brdv_drain_all() only if the device is shrinked (independently of !bs->growable)
> > b) Call brdv_drain_all() inside iscsi_truncate() because it is a special requirement there
> > c) Fix the value of bs->growable for all drivers
> 
> Let's start from (c).  bdrv_file_open sets bs->growable = 1.  I think it
> should be removed and only the file protocol should set it.

This is probably right.

> Then we can add bdrv_revalidate and, for block_resize, call
> bdrv_revalidate+bdrv_truncate.  For bs->growable = 0 &&
> !bs->drv->bdrv_truncate, bdrv_truncate can just check that the actual
> size is the same or bigger as the one requested, and fail otherwise.

This one not so much. bs->growable does not mean that you can use
bdrv_truncate. It rather means that you may write beyond the end of the
file even without truncating it first. Mabye bs->auto_grow would be a
better for it.

So bs->growable == true implies that bdrv_truncate() should be allowed
as well, because obviously changing the BDS size is possbile, but it's
not true the other way round.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-07  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-06 14:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Initial VHDX support (and a bug fix for QCOW) Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] block: only force IO completion in .bdrv_truncate if we are shrinking Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 17:50   ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-06 18:06     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-06 18:14       ` Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 18:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-06 18:48           ` Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 19:03             ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-06 20:39               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-07  8:50                 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-03-07  8:56                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-07  9:03                     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-07  9:16                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-07  9:22                         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-07  9:25                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-07 10:00                             ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-07 10:22                               ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-07 16:45                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-07  8:53                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-07  8:59                   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-07 16:09                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-08  7:53                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-08  9:23                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-08  9:35                         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-08 11:46                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-08 11:56                             ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-09  9:36                               ` Peter Lieven
     [not found]         ` <51378A23.5090301@dlhnet.de>
     [not found]           ` <20130306184217.GC3743@localhost.localdomain>
2013-03-06 18:46             ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-06 18:27       ` Peter Lieven
2013-03-07  8:57         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-06 18:32     ` Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 20:22       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-06 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] qemu: add castagnoli crc32c checksum algorithm Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] block: vhdx header for the QEMU support of VHDX images Jeff Cody
2013-03-07 13:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-07 13:43     ` Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] block: initial VHDX driver support framework - supports open and probe Jeff Cody
2013-03-07 14:30   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-07 15:23     ` Jeff Cody
2013-03-07 16:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-08  8:35         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-06 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] block: add read-only support to VHDX image format Jeff Cody
2013-03-06 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] block: add header update capability for VHDX images Jeff Cody
2013-03-07 14:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-07 15:33     ` Jeff Cody
2013-03-07 16:15       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-06 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] block: add write support " Jeff Cody
2013-03-07 15:59   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-07 16:05     ` Jeff Cody

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