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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com,
	abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 03/10] more verbose documentation of the RDMA transport
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:06:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130320190633.GB22631@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5149DF08.4090209@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:08:40PM -0400, Michael R. Hines wrote:
> 
> On 03/20/2013 11:55 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:15:48AM -0400, Michael R. Hines wrote:
> >>OK, can we make a deal? =)
> >>
> >>I'm willing to put in the work to perform the dynamic registration
> >>on the destination side,
> >>but let's go a step further and piggy-back on the effort:
> >>
> >>We need to couple this registration with a very small modification
> >>to save_ram_block():
> >>
> >>Currently, save_ram_block does:
> >>
> >>1. is RDMA turned on?      if yes, unconditionally add to next chunk
> >>                                          (will be made to
> >>dynamically register on destination)
> >>2. is_dup_page() ?            if yes, skip
> >>3. in xbzrle cache?           if yes, skip
> >>4. still not sent?                if yes, transmit
> >>
> >>I propose adding a "stub" function that adds:
> >>
> >>0. is page mapped?         if yes, skip   (always returns true for now)
> >>1. same
> >>2. same
> >>3. same
> >>4. same
> >>
> >>Then, later, in a separate patch, I can implement /dev/pagemap support.
> >>
> >>When that's done, RDMA dynamic registration will actually take effect and
> >>benefit from actually verifying that the page is mapped or not.
> >>
> >>- Michael
> >Mapped into guest? You mean e.g. for ballooning?
> >
> 
> No, not just ballooning. Overcommit (i.e. cgroups).
> 
> Anytime cgroups kicks out a page (or anytime the balloon kicks in),
> the page would become unmapped.

OK but we still need to send that page to remote.
It's in swap but has guest data in there, you can't
just ignore it.

> The make dynamic registration useful, we have to actually have something
> in place in the future that knows how to *check* if a page is unmapped
> from the virtual machine, either because it has never been dirtied before
> (and might be pointing to the zero page) or because it has been madvised()
> out or has been detatched because of a cgroup limit.
> 
> - Michael
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-20 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-18  3:18 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 00/10] cleaner ramblocks and documentation mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 01/10] ./configure --enable-rdma mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 02/10] check for CONFIG_RDMA mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 03/10] more verbose documentation of the RDMA transport mrhines
2013-03-18 10:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-18 20:24     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 21:26       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-18 23:23         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19  8:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 13:21             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:08             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 15:32                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:36                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:09                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 17:14                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 17:23                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:40                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 17:52                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 18:04                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 13:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 15:15                               ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 15:22                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 15:55                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 16:08                                   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 19:06                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-03-20 20:20                                       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:31                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:39                                           ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:46                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:56                                               ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21  5:20                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:24                                   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:37                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:45                                       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:52                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:49                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21  6:11                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 15:22                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:45                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:46                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 04/10] iterators for getting the RAMBlocks mrhines
2013-03-18  8:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:25     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 05/10] reuse function for parsing the QMP 'migrate' string mrhines
2013-03-18  3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 06/10] core RDMA migration code (rdma.c) mrhines
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 07/10] connection-establishment for RDMA mrhines
2013-03-18  8:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:26     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 08/10] introduce QEMUFileRDMA mrhines
2013-03-18  9:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:33     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19  9:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:12         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:25           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:40             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 14:10                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 14:22                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 15:02                     ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug]? (RDMA-related) ballooned memory not consulted during migration? Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:12                       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 18:27                     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 08/10] introduce QEMUFileRDMA Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 18:40                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 15:20                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 16:09                           ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 09/10] check for QMP string and bypass nonblock() calls mrhines
2013-03-18  8:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:37     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19  9:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:08         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18  3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 10/10] send pc.ram over RDMA mrhines

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