From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
Yishai Hadas <yishaih@mellanox.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] rdma: don't make pages writeable if not requiested
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:15:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130321191541.GB5272@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321184135.GA8044@obsidianresearch.com>
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:41:35PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 08:16:33PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
> > This is the one I find redundant. Since the write will be done by
> > the adaptor under direct control by the application, why does it
> > make sense to declare this beforehand? If you don't want to allow
> > local write access to memory, just do not post any receive WRs with
> > this address. If you posted and regret it, reset the QP to cancel.
>
> This is to support your COW scenario - the app declares before hand to
> the kernel that it will write to the memory and the kernel ensures
> pages are dedicated to the app at registration time. Or the app says
> it will only read and the kernel could leave them shared.
Someone here is confused. LOCAL_WRITE/absence of it does not address
COW, it breaks COW anyway. Are you now saying we should change rdma so
without LOCAL_WRITE it will not break COW?
> The adaptor enforces the access control to prevent a naughty app from
> writing to shared memory - think about mmap'ing libc.so and then using
> RDMA to write to the shared pages. It is necessary to ensure that is
> impossible.
>
> Jason
That's why it's redundant: we can't trust an application to tell us
'this page is writeable', we must get this info from kernel. And so
there's apparently no need for application to tell adaptor about
LOCAL_WRITE.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-21 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-21 6:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] rdma: don't make pages writeable if not requiested Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 6:55 ` Roland Dreier
2013-03-21 7:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 7:15 ` Roland Dreier
2013-03-21 8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 9:13 ` Roland Dreier
2013-03-21 9:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 18:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 19:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-03-21 20:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 9:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 11:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 12:23 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21 12:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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