From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37191) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URLi5-00007d-FT for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:07:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URLc1-0006Pe-GH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:01:13 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:39113) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URLc1-0006PW-3I for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:00:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:59:11 +0300 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Message-ID: <20130414115911.GA4923@redhat.com> References: <20130411143718.GC24942@redhat.com> <5166CDAD.8060807@redhat.com> <20130411145632.GA2280@redhat.com> <5166F7AE.8070209@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130411191533.GA25515@redhat.com> <51671DFF.80904@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130412104802.GA23467@redhat.com> <5167E797.2050103@redhat.com> <20130412112553.GB23467@redhat.com> <51681DAA.3000503@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51681DAA.3000503@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 03/12] comprehensive protocol documentation List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael R. Hines" , owasserm@redhat.com, abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 04:43:54PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Il 12/04/2013 13:25, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:53:11PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> Il 12/04/2013 12:48, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto: > >>> 1. You have two protocols already and this does not make sense in > >>> version 1 of the patch. > >> > >> It makes sense if we consider it experimental (add x- in front of > >> transport and capability) and would like people to play with it. > >> > >> Paolo > > > > But it's not testable yet. I see problems just reading the > > documentation. Author thinks "ulimit -l 10000000000" on both source and > > destination is just fine. This can easily crash host or cause OOM > > killer to kill QEMU. So why is there any need for extra testers? Fix > > the major bugs first. > > > > There's a similar issue with device assignment - we can't fix it there, > > and despite being available for years, this was one of two reasons that > > has kept this feature out of hands of lots of users (and assuming guest > > has lots of zero pages won't work: balloon is not widely used either > > since it depends on a well-behaved guest to work correctly). > > I agree assuming guest has lots of zero pages won't work, but I think > you are overstating the importance of overcommit. Let's mark the damn > thing as experimental, and stop making perfect the enemy of good. > > Paolo It looks like we have to decide, before merging, whether migration with rdma that breaks overcommit is worth it or not. Since the author made it very clear he does not intend to make it work with overcommit, ever. -- MST