From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] spapr_vio: take care of creating our own AddressSpace/DMAContext
Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:24:55 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130502022455.GD13041@truffula.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51813E31.5070500@redhat.com>
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On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 06:09:21PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
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> Il 01/05/2013 07:16, David Gibson ha scritto:
> > Lack of atomicity makes me a little nervous there, although I
> > guess its ok since qemu is single-threaded.
>
> Yes. The original plan was to add a boolean return value to
> address_space_rw, but I left this for later since I wasn't sure of the
> semantics for multipage writes. What happens if the second half of
> the destination buffer has an invalid translation? Right now it's
> atomic, but it sounds weird for real hardware.
So, in this regard I don't think real hardware would be atomic. It
would write a certain amount, then generate some sort of bus error
when it hits the bad translation. So in general I expect the (guest)
OS would need to treat the target of in-flight device to host DMAs as
having undefined contents if there's a bus error like that. It would
depend on bus and possibly individual device conventions what it could
assume about which DMAs are interrupted, and which might still be
in-flight.
That is, in this sense, we don't expect the hardware to behave
atomically at all. The atomicity I was concerned about was atomicity
of checking permissions and returning an error based on that check.
So, case, I think an error return value from address_space_rw() is
appropriate. Semantics would be that if an error is returned you
can't tell if the operation has not started, completed, or somewhere
in the middle.
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[not found] <1367378320-9246-1-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
[not found] ` <1367378320-9246-7-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
2013-05-01 4:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] memory: add address_space_valid David Gibson
2013-05-01 7:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <1367378320-9246-11-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
2013-05-01 4:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] spapr: convert TCE API to use an opaque type David Gibson
[not found] ` <1367378320-9246-13-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
2013-05-01 4:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] spapr: use memory core for iommu support David Gibson
[not found] ` <1367378320-9246-14-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
2013-05-01 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] dma: eliminate old-style IOMMU support David Gibson
[not found] ` <1367378320-9246-15-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
2013-05-01 5:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] pci: use memory core for iommu support David Gibson
2013-05-01 16:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <1367378320-9246-16-git-send-email-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
2013-05-01 5:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] spapr_vio: take care of creating our own AddressSpace/DMAContext David Gibson
2013-05-01 16:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-02 2:24 ` David Gibson [this message]
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