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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] seabios: move acpi table formatting out of bios
Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 13:29:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130508102911.GA12835@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130508093150.GP12349@redhat.com>

On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:31:50PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 07:01:13PM -0400, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:00:48PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:02:20PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > Untested yet, but I thought I'd share the
> > > > BIOS bits so we can agree on direction.
> > > > 
> > > > In particular check out ROM sizes:
> > > > - Before patchset with DSDT enabled
> > > >     Total size: 127880  Fixed: 59060  Free: 3192 (used 97.6% of 128KiB rom)
> > > > - Before patchset with DSDT disabled
> > > >     Total size: 122844  Fixed: 58884  Free: 8228 (used 93.7% of 128KiB rom)
> > > > - After patchset:
> > > >     Total size: 128776  Fixed: 59100  Free: 2296 (used 98.2% of 128KiB rom)
> > > > - Legacy disabled at build time:
> > > >     Total size: 119836  Fixed: 58996  Free: 11236 (used 91.4% of 128KiB rom)
> > > > 
> > > > As can be seen from this, most size savings come
> > > > from dropping DSDT, but we do save a bit by removing
> > > > other tables. Of course the real reason to move tables to QEMU
> > > > is so that ACPI can better match hardware.
> > > > 
> > > > This patchset adds an option to move all code for formatting acpi tables
> > > > out of BIOS. With this, QEMU has full control over the table layout.
> > > > All tables are loaded from the new "/etc/acpi/" directory.
> > > > Any entries in this directory cause BIOS to disable
> > > > ACPI table generation completely.
> > > > A generic linker script, controlled by QEMU, is
> > > > loaded from "/etc/linker-script". It is used to
> > > > patch in table pointers and checksums.
> > > 
> > > After some thought, there are two additional
> > > options worth considering, in that they simplify
> > > bios code somewhat:
> > > 
> > > - bios could get size from qemu, allocate a buffer
> > >   (e.g. could be one buffer for all tables)
> > >   and pass the address to qemu.
> > >   qemu does all the patching
> > > 
> > > - further, qemu could do the copy of tables into
> > >   that address directly
> > 
> > This seems more complex than necessary to me.
> > 
> > The important task is to get the tables generated in QEMU - I'd focus
> > on getting the tables generated in QEMU (one table per fw_cfg "file").
> > Once that is done, the SeaBIOS side can be easily implemented, and we
> > can add any enhancements on top if we feel it is necessary.
> > 
> +1. This "copy of tables into that address directly" is just an ad-hoc PV
> isa DMA device in disguise. Such device was refused when libguestfs
> asked for it, and they wanted it for much better reason - performance.
> There is existing mechanism to pass data into firmware. Use it please.

Yes I can code it up using FW_CFG for now.

One issue with QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR is that it's broken wrt migration,
unless we pass in very small bits of data which we
can guarantee never changes across qemu versions.

Off-list, I suggested fixing it and migrating file
content, but Anthony thinks it's a bad idea.

I don't care much.

> --
> 			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-08 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-25  9:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] seabios: move acpi table formatting out of bios Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-25  9:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/3] linker: utility to patch in-memory ROM files Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-25  9:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/3] acpi: load and link tables from /etc/acpi/ Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-29 11:41   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-04-29 13:25     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-25  9:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/3] acpi: add an option to disable builtin tables Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-25 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH RFC 0/3] seabios: move acpi table formatting out of bios Fred .
2013-04-25 21:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-25 22:39     ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-07 18:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-07 23:01   ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-08  9:31     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-08 10:29       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-05-08 10:34         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-08 10:43           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-08 10:59             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-08 11:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-08 11:35                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-08 12:35                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-08 12:41                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-08 22:55                     ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-09  5:42                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-08 18:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-09  5:24       ` Gleb Natapov

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