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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: mdroth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemulist@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/9] QContext: QOM class to support multiple event loops
Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 13:54:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130508115413.GC18210@stefanha-thinkpad.muc.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130506181753.GB1685@vm>

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 01:17:53PM -0500, mdroth wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:54:14AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 03/05/2013 18:03, Michael Roth ha scritto:
> > > These patches apply on top of qemu.git master, and can also be obtained from:
> > > git://github.com/mdroth/qemu.git qcontext
> > > 
> > > OVERVIEW
> > > 
> > > This series introduces a set of QOM classes/interfaces for event
> > > registration/handling: QContext and QSource, which are based closely on
> > > their GMainContext/GSource GLib counterparts.
> > > 
> > > QContexts can be created via the command-line via -object, and can also be
> > > intructed (via -object params/properties) to automatically start a
> > > thread/event-loop to handle QSources we attach to them.
> > 
> > This is an awesome idea.
> > 
> > However, it seems a bit overengineered.  Why do we need QSource at all?
> >  In my opinion, we should first change dataplane to use AioContext as a
> > GSource, and benchmark it thoroughly.  If it is fast enough, we can
> 
> I think it would be great to just stick with GSources. I didn't want to
> rely too heavily on GLib for the RFC since there seems to be some
> reservations about relying too heavily on GLib for our
> OneTrueEventLoop interface (mainly, lack of PI mutexes in the context of
> real-time device threads, or other performance considerations that might
> pop up and cause us to rethink our use of glib).
> 
> However, knowing that we *could* do something like porting to QSources and
> using a different QContext implementation if the need ever became
> evident is enough for me, and I'm happy to drop QSources until we
> actually need them. The GSource->QSource conversions would be mostly
> mechanical.
> 
> > GSource, and benchmark it thoroughly.  If it is fast enough, we can
> > "just" introduce a glib-based QContext and be done with it.  Hopefully
> > that is the case...
> 
> Sounds good to me. I'll look into that more, and talk to some of our
> performance folks who were involved with the virtio-blk dataplane
> testing.

Great.  I see value in QOM, it allows event loop threads to be specified
on the command-line and monitor.  But it would be nice to drop QSource
as well as the QContext inheritance hierarchy.

BTW there should be a command analogous to query-cpus that lists the
QContexts and their thread IDs.  This way CPU affinity can be set
similar to how we do it for vcpu threads today.

Stefan

      reply	other threads:[~2013-05-08 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-03 16:03 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/9] QContext: QOM class to support multiple event loops Michael Roth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] qom: add qom_init_completion Michael Roth
2013-05-06  7:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 19:01     ` mdroth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] qom: add object_property_add_unnamed_child Michael Roth
2013-05-06  7:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 18:48     ` mdroth
2013-05-08 11:33       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] QSource: QEMU event source object Michael Roth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] QContext: QEMU event loop context, abstract base class Michael Roth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] GlibQContext: a QContext wrapper around GMainContexts Michael Roth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] QContext: add unit tests Michael Roth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] iohandler: associate with main event loop via a QSource Michael Roth
2013-05-06  7:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 19:03     ` mdroth
2013-08-15  6:07     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] main-loop: drive main event loop via QContext Michael Roth
2013-05-03 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] dataplane: use a QContext event loop in place of custom thread Michael Roth
2013-05-06  7:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 19:13     ` mdroth
2013-05-06  3:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/9] QContext: QOM class to support multiple event loops liu ping fan
2013-05-06 18:43   ` mdroth
2013-05-06  7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 12:25   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-06 18:35     ` mdroth
2013-05-06 20:04       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 18:17   ` mdroth
2013-05-08 11:54     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]

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