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From: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Bug 1180923 <1180923@bugs.launchpad.net>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, TC1988 <panie@tiscali.it>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 1180923] [NEW] unused memory filled with 0x00 instead of 0xFF
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 21:31:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130521013149.GA17641@morn.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehd5wqaq.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:59:25AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> > So you can see it in three ways:
> >
> > 1) It's not a QEMU problem, but a firmware problem.  You could initialize
> > the UMBs with 0xFF in SeaBIOS for example.
> 
> SeaBIOS is not supposed to do any initialization.  Once it's RAM,
> there's no guarantee of what the contents will be.  The problem is that
> it's supposed to be ROM.
> 
> I doubt it's still there, but BIOSes often had an option to disable
> ROM shadowing expressly because it breaks applications that assume that
> this space is ROM after BIOS loads.
> 
> Perhaps SeaBIOS could support such an option but we can't support it in
> KVM at the moment.

It would not be easy to make SeaBIOS work with a truly read-only rom.
SeaBIOS is designed to store static settings in the f-segment (where
it can be accessed relative to %cs at runtime), and undoing that would
be quite difficult.

However, it is not too difficult to make SeaBIOS turn the
0xc0000-0x100000 area into read-only memory after initialization.  The
biggest stumbling block is that SeaBIOS stores read/write variables in
the e-segment today, but it's possible to store them at the end of the
640k region instead (I posted a patch for this at:
http://www.seabios.org/pipermail/seabios/2013-February/005693.html ).

Once the memory 0xc0000-0x100000 ram can be read-only, setting the pam
registers to mark it as read-only and memset'ing the region to 0xff is
straight forward.

-Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-21  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-16 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 1180923] [NEW] unused memory filled with 0x00 instead of 0xFF TC1988
2013-05-16 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 1180923] " TC1988
2013-05-16 17:45 ` Battler
2013-05-16 19:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 1180923] [NEW] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-16 19:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-16 20:00     ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-17  7:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-17 15:59         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-21  1:31           ` Kevin O'Connor [this message]
2013-05-16 19:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 1180923] " Battler
2013-05-17 14:26 ` Battler
2013-05-17 14:36 ` Battler
2013-05-17 16:43 ` Battler
2020-08-07  9:25 ` Thomas Huth
2020-10-07  4:17 ` Launchpad Bug Tracker
2022-07-31 20:59 ` David Glover
2022-08-01  6:29   ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)
2022-08-01  6:29     ` Yonggang Luo
2022-08-01  6:30 ` Yonggang Luo
2023-06-12 21:57 ` Evren

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