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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Lior Vernia" <liorvern@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	陳韋任 <chenwj@iis.sinica.edu.tw>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Potential to accelerate QEMU for specific architectures
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 12:58:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130526095825.GR4725@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9Ce0XrEJb+CTSDCaU=1C2JmcHz4ZMt+aY-nr-mR3X4rg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:26:04AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 26 May 2013 06:40, Lior Vernia <liorvern@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry, right after I wrote the message it occured to me I should have
> > mentioned that I was talking about qemu-system, either x86 or i386. At
> > the moment I just ran the limbo app on a Galaxy SIII with various
> > images, just to see the capabilities, and was disappointed. Limbo
> > seems to run v1.1.0.
> 
> > I wanted to add that I've been reading about this Russian startup
> > that's looking to emulate x86 on ARM at 40% of native speed using
> > dynamic binary translation (as far as I gather):
> > http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2012/10/04/x86-on-arm/1
> > So this should be possible. And it can't be very much unlike QEMU, can it?
> 
> That article suggests they're doing application-level translation,
> not system-level emulation. If you:
>  * design your emulation from scratch with that use case in mind
>    (qemu is system emulation first with app-level as a secondary case)
>  * are happy to have just one guest and one target architecture
>    (this is actually mostly useful in that it reduces the set of things
>    you have to test; it also lets you take shortcuts in corner cases
>    for your initial implementation)
>  * put more concentrated effort into emulation performance than QEMU
> 
> then you should be able to do better than qemu does currently.
> You'd probably end up with something like Transitive's QuickTransit/
> Rosetta.
> 
Actually here is an example of Starcraft running in android on ARM in
full speed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39009939
Search more about winulator.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-26  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-24 19:24 [Qemu-devel] Potential to accelerate QEMU for specific architectures Lior Vernia
2013-05-25 17:48 ` Blue Swirl
2013-05-25 19:06 ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-25 21:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-26  5:40   ` Lior Vernia
2013-05-26  9:00     ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-26 16:03       ` Lior Vernia
2013-05-26  9:26     ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-26  9:58       ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-05-26 10:11         ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-26 16:35       ` Lior Vernia
2013-05-27  6:59         ` Paolo Bonzini

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