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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Luke Gorrie <lukego@gmail.com>,
	"snabb-devel@googlegroups.com" <snabb-devel@googlegroups.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] snabbswitch integration with QEMU for userspace ethernet I/O
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 18:18:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130527151854.GB16852@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130527093409.GH21969@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:34:09AM +0200, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:32:49AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote:
> > Stefan put us onto the highly promising track of vhost/virtio. We have
> > implemented this between Snabb Switch and the Linux kernel, but not
> > directly between Snabb Switch and QEMU guests. The "roadblock" we have hit
> > is embarrasingly basic: QEMU is using user-to-kernel system calls to setup
> > vhost (open /dev/net/tun and /dev/vhost-net, ioctl()s) and I haven't found
> > a good way to map these towards Snabb Switch instead of the kernel.
> 
> vhost_net is about connecting the a virtio-net speaking process to a
> tun-like device.  The problem you are trying to solve is connecting a
> virtio-net speaking process to Snabb Switch.
> 
> Either you need to replace vhost or you need a tun-like device
> interface.
> 
> Replacing vhost would mean that your switch implements virtio-net,
> shares guest RAM with the guest, and shares the ioeventfd and irqfd
> which are used to signal with the guest.  At that point your switch is
> similar to the virtio-net data plane work that Ping Fan Liu is working
> on but your switch is in a separate process rather than a thread.
> 
> How does your switch talk to hardware?

Yes that's my question as well.

>  If you have userspace NIC
> drivers that bypass the Linux network stack then the approach I
> mentioned fits well.
> 
> If you are using the Linux network stack then it might be better to
> integrate with vhost maybe as a tun-like device driver.
> 
> Stefan

Maybe you should bind macvtap passthrough mode to veth.
packet socket backend doesn't support TSO at this point,
so it's slower.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-27 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-26  9:32 [Qemu-devel] snabbswitch integration with QEMU for userspace ethernet I/O Luke Gorrie
2013-05-27  9:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-27 15:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-05-27 15:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 16:18     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-27 16:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 17:01         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-27 17:13           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-27 18:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 10:39       ` Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 10:10   ` Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 10:35     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-28 11:36     ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 11:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 12:09         ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 13:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 15:35             ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 15:44               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 12:48         ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:276] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 13:12           ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 13:42             ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:280] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 14:42         ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:276] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 15:33           ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 17:00       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 18:55           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 10:31             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-05-29 12:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 13:04                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04 12:19               ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:300] " Luke Gorrie
2013-06-04 12:49                 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-06-04 20:09                   ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:326] " Luke Gorrie
2013-06-04 12:56                 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:300] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05  6:09                   ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:327] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-29  7:49           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29  9:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:21               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 14:48                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:02                 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-30  2:35                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-05-30  6:46                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-30  6:55                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  7:11                     ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:308] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-30  8:08                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Julian Stecklina
2013-05-29 12:32         ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-29 14:31           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 15:59             ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 11:58     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-10-21 10:29       ` Luke Gorrie

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