From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>,
Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: piix: PCI bridge ACPI hotplug support
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:53:14 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130611075314.GG31474@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B6D4E5.2070100@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:42:29AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >>> Portability:
> >>> - Non x86 (or any Linux) platforms don't need any of this code.
> >>> They can keep happily using SHPC the way
> >>> they always did.
> >>
> >> Hmm. Is is possible to write a SHPC driver in AML? I think it would be
> >> alot better to have one guest/host interface for pci bridge hotplug
> >> instead of two.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Gerd
> >
> > No, it's not possible, SHPC is not designed to be used from ACPI.
> >
> > Two reasons off the top of my head, there are likely others:
> >
> > 1. SHPC uses regular PCI interrupts to signal events. It does not signal
> > GFE and SCI.
> >
> > 2. SHPC uses config accesses to get information from device.
> > ACPI does not allow config access anywhere except the root bus from ACPI
> > (This requirement is designed to give the OS freedom
> > to reconfigure PCI in an arbitrary way).
>
> OK, so it's designed for OSes to have native SHPC support. Linux has that?
Yes.
> Quick googling found me Windows Vista+ has it too, correct? So that
> leaves Win2k + WinXP versions. Older Windows versions do not support
> pci hotplug at all. Win2k is EOL already. WinXP will follow soon.
>
> More users?
googling lead you astray.
No windows version supports SHPC.
> /me wonders whenever it is worth hopping through the loops needed to
> support ACPI-based hotplug of devices behind bridges in the first place.
>
> cheers,
> Gerd
Yes and not just because of windows guests.
ACPI spec is also very explicit that native hotplug is an optional
feature. Test suites such as WHQL are known to test spec compliance.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-11 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-10 16:41 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: piix: PCI bridge ACPI hotplug support Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-10 18:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 19:17 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-10 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 19:43 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 20:43 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10 21:14 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-10 21:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 23:05 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-10 23:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-10 23:52 ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-11 0:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11 14:11 ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-11 0:23 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-11 0:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11 1:19 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-11 1:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11 1:49 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-11 6:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 0:28 ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-11 1:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-11 1:32 ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-11 7:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-13 23:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14 0:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-14 1:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2013-06-11 14:04 ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-13 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-14 0:26 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-16 10:00 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-11 5:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 5:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-11 6:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 7:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-11 7:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-06-11 8:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-11 8:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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