From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@gmail.com>
Cc: josh.durgin@dreamhost.com, tailai.ly@taobao.com,
Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, rjones@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] block: Review of .has_zero_init use
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:45:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130625134551.GM3539@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2bo6unw6j.wl%morita.kazutaka@gmail.com>
Am 25.06.2013 um 15:42 hat MORITA Kazutaka geschrieben:
> At Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:20:18 +0200,
> Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >
> > Am 25.06.2013 um 15:11 hat MORITA Kazutaka geschrieben:
> > > At Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:39:11 +0200,
> > > Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > while discussing some iscsi patches with Peter, we came to have a look
> > > > at which block drivers implement has_zero_init() to return 0, and which
> > > > don't (returning 1 is the default).
> > > >
> > > > The meaning of this value is that if has_zero_init != 0, after
> > > > bdrv_create() one can assume that the whole image would read back as all
> > > > zero. For example, this is true for the traditional image files, but not
> > > > for host_device, where the block device isn't really created during
> > > > bdrv_create() but only checked for size.
> > > >
> > > > The full list of protocol level block drivers is:
> > > >
> > > > * blkdebug - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * blkverify - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * curl - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * gluster - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * iscsi - has_zero_init = 0
> > > > * nbd - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * file - has_zero_init = 1
> > > > * host_* - has_zero_init = 0
> > > > * rbd - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * sheepdog - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * ssh - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * vvfat - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > >
> > > > Can you please review for the gluster, rbd, sheepdog and ssh driver
> > > > whether it's safe to assume that the image reads back as zeros after
> > > > bdrv_create?
> > >
> > > It's safe for Sheepdog. Sheepdog uses ftruncate or fallocate to
> > > create data blocks and it is guaranteed that the space will be
> > > initialized to zero.
> >
> > Note that ftruncate/fallocate don't zero-initialise block devices, only
> > regular files. Not sure if you can use block devices to back Sheepdog
> > images?
>
> We cannot do that. Sheepdog heavily relies on filesystem features and
> we will not support block devices for the backend of Sheepdog.
Okay, so Sheepdog is indeed safe. Thanks, Kazutaka!
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-25 13:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-25 11:39 [Qemu-devel] block: Review of .has_zero_init use Kevin Wolf
2013-06-25 12:05 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-06-25 12:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-06-25 13:11 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-06-25 13:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-06-25 13:42 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-06-25 13:45 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-06-25 15:06 ` Josh Durgin
2013-06-26 3:14 ` Bharata B Rao
2013-06-26 5:59 ` Peter Lieven
2013-06-26 6:46 ` Bharata B Rao
2013-06-26 7:36 ` Kevin Wolf
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