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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@gmail.com>
Cc: josh.durgin@dreamhost.com, tailai.ly@taobao.com,
	Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, rjones@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] block: Review of .has_zero_init use
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:45:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130625134551.GM3539@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2bo6unw6j.wl%morita.kazutaka@gmail.com>

Am 25.06.2013 um 15:42 hat MORITA Kazutaka geschrieben:
> At Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:20:18 +0200,
> Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > 
> > Am 25.06.2013 um 15:11 hat MORITA Kazutaka geschrieben:
> > > At Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:39:11 +0200,
> > > Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > while discussing some iscsi patches with Peter, we came to have a look
> > > > at which block drivers implement has_zero_init() to return 0, and which
> > > > don't (returning 1 is the default).
> > > > 
> > > > The meaning of this value is that if has_zero_init != 0, after
> > > > bdrv_create() one can assume that the whole image would read back as all
> > > > zero. For example, this is true for the traditional image files, but not
> > > > for host_device, where the block device isn't really created during
> > > > bdrv_create() but only checked for size.
> > > > 
> > > > The full list of protocol level block drivers is:
> > > > 
> > > > * blkdebug      - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * blkverify     - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * curl          - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * gluster       - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * iscsi         - has_zero_init = 0
> > > > * nbd           - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > * file          - has_zero_init = 1
> > > > * host_*        - has_zero_init = 0
> > > > * rbd           - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * sheepdog      - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * ssh           - currently has_zero_init = 1 (is this correct?)
> > > > * vvfat         - doesn't have bdrv_create
> > > > 
> > > > Can you please review for the gluster, rbd, sheepdog and ssh driver
> > > > whether it's safe to assume that the image reads back as zeros after
> > > > bdrv_create?
> > > 
> > > It's safe for Sheepdog.  Sheepdog uses ftruncate or fallocate to
> > > create data blocks and it is guaranteed that the space will be
> > > initialized to zero.
> > 
> > Note that ftruncate/fallocate don't zero-initialise block devices, only
> > regular files. Not sure if you can use block devices to back Sheepdog
> > images?
> 
> We cannot do that.  Sheepdog heavily relies on filesystem features and
> we will not support block devices for the backend of Sheepdog.

Okay, so Sheepdog is indeed safe. Thanks, Kazutaka!

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-25 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-25 11:39 [Qemu-devel] block: Review of .has_zero_init use Kevin Wolf
2013-06-25 12:05 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-06-25 12:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-06-25 13:11 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-06-25 13:20   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-06-25 13:42     ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-06-25 13:45       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-06-25 15:06 ` Josh Durgin
2013-06-26  3:14 ` Bharata B Rao
2013-06-26  5:59   ` Peter Lieven
2013-06-26  6:46     ` Bharata B Rao
2013-06-26  7:36       ` Kevin Wolf

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