From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:00:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130701080033.GA7105@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D06198.6090100@msgid.tls.msk.ru>
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 08:49:28PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> 30.06.2013 19:51, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > On 30 June 2013 16:36, Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru> wrote:
> >> I don't understand. I for one like to see a plugins system used in qemu,
> >> and except of the build system everything else is easy (and even nice,
> >> there's even no need to load all plugins at startup as was initially
> >> suggested). But for this to work, we really need to separate libs
> >> used only by plugins from the main lot, -- or else there's just no
> >> reason to build plugins in the first place.
> >
> > So, why do we want to build things as plugins? Neither of the
> > cover letters to your two patch series nor Anthony's wiki page
> > on modules actually give the rationale.
>
> I just updated the wiki page a bit (which is at
> http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Modules btw).
>
> The main rationale so far is to allow separate packaging of separate
> features for downstreams, to reduce the need to install all dependent
> libraries/packages.
This is more than just a small packaging clean-up. It makes the
difference between shipping and not shipping niche features.
For features like Ceph, Sheepdog, etc the majority of downstream users
may be against the dependency. So the QEMU package gets built without
these features!
Modules allow downstreams to cleanly package QEMU features and users can
decide which features/dependencies they wish to bring in.
For anyone jumping into the thread here: modules are not a stable ABI
and out-of-tree modules will not be supported in any way.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-01 8:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-18 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/4] build-sys: strip leading ./ from $(obj) Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/4] build-sys: allow object-specific libraries to be used to link executables Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/4] build-sys: allow per-object foo.cflags variables Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] build-sys: move -lcurl out of libs and specify it for curl.o Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 14:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-19 14:58 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 16:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 18:18 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 18:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 19:31 ` Richard Henderson
[not found] ` <51C2D03E.2030505@redhat.com>
2013-06-20 10:06 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-20 12:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 12:50 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-20 17:09 ` Richard Henderson
2013-06-19 20:00 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-20 10:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-30 15:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 10:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 10:10 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 10:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-30 15:28 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-30 15:36 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-30 15:51 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-30 16:49 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 8:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2013-06-30 15:56 ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-01 13:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 14:43 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 14:46 ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-01 14:52 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 14:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 15:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:52 ` Michael Tokarev
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