From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, hbrock@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
rjones@redhat.com, imain@redhat.com,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] block: replace in_use with refcnt_soft and refcnt_hard
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:44:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130724074438.GA26034@T430s.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130724073504.GB31445@stefanha-thinkpad.muc.redhat.com>
On Wed, 07/24 09:35, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 08:39:53AM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > On Tue, 07/23 15:34, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:32:25PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 07/23 11:36, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:06PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > > > > > Introduce refcnt_soft (soft reference) and refcnt_hard (hard reference)
> > > > > > to BlockDriverState, since in_use mechanism cannot provide proper
> > > > > > management of lifecycle when a BDS is referenced in multiple places
> > > > > > (e.g. pointed to by another bs's backing_hd while also used as a block
> > > > > > job device, in the use case of image fleecing).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The original in_use case is considered a "hard reference" in this patch,
> > > > > > where the bs is busy and should not be used in other tasks that require
> > > > > > a hard reference. (However the interface doesn't force this, caller
> > > > > > still need to call bdrv_in_use() to check by itself.).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A soft reference is implemented but not used yet. It will be used in
> > > > > > following patches to manage the lifecycle together with hard reference.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If bdrv_ref() is called on a BDS, it must be released by exactly the
> > > > > > same numbers of bdrv_unref() with the same "soft/hard" type, and never
> > > > > > call bdrv_delete() directly. If the BDS is only used locally (unnamed),
> > > > > > bdrv_ref/bdrv_unref can be skipped and just use bdrv_delete().
> > > > >
> > > > > It is risky to keep bdrv_delete() public. I suggest replacing
> > > > > bdrv_delete() callers with bdrv_unref() and then making bdrv_delete()
> > > > > static in block.c.
> > > > >
> > > > > This way it is impossible to make the mistake of calling bdrv_delete()
> > > > > on a BDS which has refcnt > 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't really understand this patch. There are now two separate
> > > > > refcounts. They must both reach 0 for deletion to occur. I think
> > > > > you plan to treat the "hard" refcount like the in_use counter (there
> > > > > should only be 0 or 1 refs) but you don't enforce it. It seems cleaner
> > > > > to keep in_use separate: let in_use callers take a refcount and also set
> > > > > in_use.
> > > >
> > > > OK, I like your ideas, make bdrv_delete private is much cleaner. Will
> > > > fix in next revision.
> > > >
> > > > I plan to make it like this:
> > > >
> > > > /* soft ref */
> > > > void bdrv_{ref,unref}(bs)
> > > >
> > > > /* hard ref */
> > > > bool bdrv_hard_{ref,unref}(bs)
> > > >
> > > > usage:
> > > > bs = bdrv_new()
> > > > <implicit bdrv_ref(bs) called>
> > > > ...
> > > > bdrv_unref(bs)
> > > > <automatically deleted here>
> > > >
> > > > or with hard ref:
> > > > bs = bdrv_new()
> > > > <implicit bdrv_ref() called>
> > > >
> > > > bdrv_hard_ref(bs)
> > > > ...
> > > > bdrv_hard_unref(bs)
> > > >
> > > > bdrv_unref(bs)
> > > > <automatically deleted here>
> > > >
> > > > The second bdrv_hard_ref call to a bs returns false, caller check the
> > > > return value.
> > >
> > > Why is hard ref necessary when we already have
> > > bdrv_in_use()/bdrv_set_in_use()?
> >
> > Keeping the names of bdrv_in_use() and bdrv_set_in_use() is noting
> > wrong, if no more than one "hard ref" is enforced. However I think we
> > should manage lifecycle with both bdrv_ref and bdrv_set_in_use, so name
> > them both ref sounds consistent: make it clearer to caller both hard ref
> > (in_use) and soft ref preserve the bs from being released.
>
> I actually find "hard"/"soft" ref naming confusing and prefer keeping
> bdrv_in_use(). Refcount is for object lifetime whereas in_use is for
> "busy" status.
>
OK, do you suggest keeping in_use as is and call bdrv_delete(bs) in
bdrv_unref() regardless of bs->in_use?
--
Fam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-24 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-17 9:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] Point-in-time snapshot exporting over NBD Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] block: replace in_use with refcnt_soft and refcnt_hard Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 4:53 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 9:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-23 10:32 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 13:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-24 0:39 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-24 7:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-24 7:44 ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2013-07-25 7:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/11] block: use refcnt for bs->backing_hd and bs->file Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/11] block: use refcnt for drive_init/drive_uninit Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/11] block: use refcnt for device attach/detach Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 9:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/11] migration: omit drive ref as we have bdrv_ref now Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 9:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/11] xen_disk: simplify blk_disconnect with refcnt Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 9:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/11] block: hold hard reference for backup/mirror target Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 9:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 6:08 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-25 7:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/11] block: simplify bdrv_drop_intermediate Fam Zheng
2013-07-24 23:16 ` Jeff Cody
2013-07-25 1:34 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/11] block: add assertion to check refcount before deleting Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/11] block: add option 'backing' to -drive options Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 12:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 13:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 13:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 14:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-23 20:07 ` Ian Main
2013-07-22 6:07 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 19:57 ` Ian Main
2013-07-17 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/11] qmp: add command 'blockdev-backup' Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:44 ` Eric Blake
2013-07-18 4:41 ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-19 10:16 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23 10:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-19 10:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] Point-in-time snapshot exporting over NBD Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23 1:52 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23 6:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
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