From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:05:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130725120530.GJ21033@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1374396185-10870-1-git-send-email-pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 04:42:57PM +0800, Liu Ping Fan wrote:
> Currently, the timers run on iothread within BQL, so virtio-block dataplane can not use throttle,
> as Stefan Hajnoczi pointed out in his patches to port dataplane onto block layer.(Thanks, Stefan)
> To enable this feature, I plan to enable timers to run on AioContext's thread.
> And maybe in future, hpet can run with its dedicated thread too.
>
> Also, I see Alex Bligh is on the same effort by another method,(it is a good idea)
> "[RFC] aio/async: Add timed bottom-halves".
> So I think it is better to post my series for discussion, although I have not thought
> very clearly point, e.g. sigaction
>
> This series ports two parts of timer stuff onto AioContext: alarm timer and timer list.
> Currently I worked based on Stefanha's git tree
> https://github.com/stefanha/qemu.git dataplane-block-layer.
>
> ---
> Open issue:
> The thread safe problem on timer list. To resolve that, I plan to adopt the bh model.
> (Not sure about this, maybe Stefan's solution in another thread is better)
> Although leave most of the race issue unresolved, patch 4 has tried to fix one of
> them as Jan Kiszka points out that vm_clock can be read outside BQL, thanks Jan :)
Thanks for sharing this series.
I think Paolo's idea of getting rid of alarm timers is a good one. We
end up with less code and fewer system calls. The only issue is timer
resolution and at least on Linux we can use ppoll(2).
Alex Bligh's series gives each AioContext its own rt_clock. This avoids
the need for synchronization in the simple case. If we require timer
access between threads then we really need to synchronize.
You pointed out in another email that vm_clock stops when the guest is
paused. I think we can find a solution for I/O throttling and QED,
which use vm_clock in the block layer. Note that block jobs already use
rt_clock.
I'm in favor of Alex Bligh's series rather than continuing to use alarm
timers.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-25 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-21 8:42 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/8] timer: associate alarm_timer with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-21 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/8] timer: pick out timer list info from QemuClock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/8] timer: make timers_state static Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-22 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-trivial] " Michael Tokarev
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/8] timer: protect timers_state with lock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/8] timer: associate timer with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 6/8] timer: run timers on aio_poll Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 9:55 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-23 2:56 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 14:22 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 7/8] block: associate BlockDriverState with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 8/8] block: enable throttle with aiocontext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 9:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Alex Bligh
2013-07-22 4:38 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-22 6:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-23 2:51 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-25 11:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-22 9:40 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-22 10:18 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 2:53 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 10:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 1:28 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 6:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 7:31 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 7:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:01 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 8:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:37 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 11:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:30 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 7:43 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:06 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2a] [RFC 8/7 (really)] Add prctl(PR_SET_TIMERSLACK, 1, ...) to reduce timer slack Alex Bligh
2013-07-23 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Alex Bligh
2013-07-25 11:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2013-07-25 12:21 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-25 12:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 12:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:48 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 13:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 13:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 13:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 14:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 18:53 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-26 8:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26 9:08 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-26 9:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 8:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-29 10:22 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-29 10:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-31 9:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26 10:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-26 19:29 ` Alex Bligh
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